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Need injector tip for Petter Atomic TW2 50 hp diesel


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Old 09-12-2014, 09:20:21 AM
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Default Need injector tip for Petter Atomic TW2 50 hp diesel

Hello all,

I'm looking for an obsolete injector tip assembly for a large
Petter diesel engine. It is a BDL 80S 28. I would be happy
with any reasonable substitute. Are there any diesel
experts that can help?

thanks, Burt
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Old 09-12-2014, 10:17:20 AM
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Default Re: Need injector tip for Petter Atomic TW2 50 hp diesel

Hey Burt, I'll send Jim Perkins an email and get him on the case, he is one of the few who might be able to help.
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Old 09-14-2014, 10:37:37 PM
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Default Re: Need injector tip for Petter Atomic TW2 50 hp diesel

Dan Grinstead in Seattle Washington knows a diesel shop that can make custom nozzles. He had a bunch made for Atlas Imperials, including some for me made to my own specs. I think the shop is in Colorado. Dan's number is 206 524 two seven five zero.
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:30:15 AM
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Hey again Burt, I spoke to Jim Perkins and he knows someone who has the engineering drawings for these nozzles, apparently they have 8 spray orifices so are not run of the mill. If Dan Grinstead can make custom nozzles from drawings then we have a solution.

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Default Re: Need injector tip for Petter Atomic TW2 50 hp diesel

Hi Burt,
You might also check with the guys at the Internal Fire Museum. They have what remained of the Petter files and paperwork and the most of it is archived on the site. Through them I was able to source reproduction nozzles and parts for my HS and VS Petter engines.
http://www.internalfire.com/

Another place that I have had good luck with is Peter Slater Injection Engineers. They understand antiques and have much old stock. They had nozzles for my Bamfords and National diesels on the shelf.
http://www.pslaterfie.co.uk/index.php
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:53:50 AM
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Default Re: Need injector tip for Petter Atomic TW2 50 hp diesel

Roland,

That's one possibility to check out. In the interim I may try a pair of Isuzu
nozzles and see how that goes. They seem to emit about the same amount
of fuel so might work out. I'm thinking using one original and one Isuzu
nozzle might cause one cylinder to fire harder than the other so a matched
pair makes more sense to me. I'm a ways from an extended run so it's
hard to say when I will know the outcome. I will keep working on the
project until it is set up to run. Presently I am working on hooking up the
air start bulb. The bulb had been tipped over and the shaft on the valve
was bent beyond use and had to be removed and straightened. At any rate,
the valve is straight and functional so am getting ready to try air starting soon.
The air start system is well engineered as there is a cam on the crank the
turns on and off the air to the #1 cylinder. This I discovered after disassembling
the brass master valve on the engine. My shop compressor will supply 175lbs
to fill the bulb so hoping that is enough to fire it off the first time. It's all a lot of
fun. Thanks to you Roland and to you DirtbikePilot. Also thanks to everyone who
has taken the time to read the thread. It's feeling of fall here so I better get at it
as I know I won't get much done when it is below zero and two feet of snow.
The engine is not in a heated shop but at least has a roof over its head...
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:17:43 AM
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Default Re: Need injector tip for Petter Atomic TW2 50 hp diesel

Hi Burt

Sorry to have been long time contacting but the SmokStak site kept shutting my PC down!

I have been making enquiries for you but without joy at the moment. Peter Slate FIE of S____horpe , England tells me he sent a sample and drg away to have some made but all has gone quiet. Apparently they are an 8 hole nozzle , will ask around over here .

Regards

Jim Perkins, ex Petters e mail jimp1115@btinternet.com
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Default Re: Need injector tip for Petter Atomic TW2 50 hp diesel

Not sure where the 8 hole idea came from :-)

80S28 has 4 0.25mm holes equally spaced and set to give an 80 degree angle.

We have both the Petter general drawing and the actual CAV nozzle drawings. The Petter drawing is online, the CAV books we have not put online for the moment.

Have a small number of nozzles but none I can part with, have tried a Gleniffer nozzle with the correct angle and three 0.25 holes which works well, other nozzle drawings in the archive suggest similar dimensions/angle.

Will send Burt the CAV drawings attached to an email.

Paul
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Default Re: Need injector tip for Petter Atomic TW2 50 hp diesel

Paul,

Thanks for the valuable information! I have been trying to get to the drawings
on line on Internal Fire but having troubles logging on. (I sent you another e-mail)
I just love computers! They have their place though and can be very useful
tools at times.

Best regards,

Burt
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Default Re: Need injector tip for Petter Atomic TW2 50 hp diesel

I need a nozzle for a smaller TTS Atomic.

Not sure if they are the same as the larger engines and did anything ever come of the attempts to get replacements manufactured?

Thanks

Peter
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