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Old 02-18-2009, 05:15:13 AM
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I was just curious to ask the rest of the crowd. I have the possibility of buying my Grandfathers old Advance but the sad thing is that it really needs to be totally reboilered. I would love nothing more than to run it again someday, however, I know it would be expensive. That part of it really is not in question. My question to the crowd is what is an engine like that worth??? I am talking about lawyers and family and will is split 3 ways with little or no interst in 2 ways???? I would appreciate all thoughts. Thanks in ADVANCE!!!
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:47:42 AM
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My personal opinion is that a man can not place a price tag on sentimental value. If it was indeed my grandfathers engine and I had the smallest spark of interest in the engine I would do everything in my powers to have it in my barn. There is someone that builds or rebuilds boilers every day on this planet only for a price.
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Old 02-18-2009, 07:05:33 AM
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Buy it now. Once you have it, you can start saving your pennies for a new boiler. If you let it go now, it probably will never come back. As goes an actual dollar figure, I'd GUESS about 3,000 dollars if the boiler is completely shot. Maybe 5,000.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:16:45 PM
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Ive looked over that engine before. its good and complete. but with the bad boiler, plumbing and possibly needing some rebuilding id say its worth 5-6500. And tell them thats a cash price.
we buy and sell a few IH tractors(&parts tractors) and pretty well every guy we talk to gives the famous line 'oh ive seen them bring this at a sale' and its usually a price 1/3 to 1/2 too high. but the guy who took his tractor to the sale or his family if its an estate looses 10% rigtht away. then theres the income tax. up here its 40% of 50% of the price. So im going to use a Mccormick W-4 tractor we recently bought for example. at a sale it might bring 2250$ -10% = 2050 = 40% of 50% = 1650. then theres usually other costs, maybe 10 bucks for gas and another 75 for a battery. now we're at 1565and sometimes there's trasport costs if its brought to a consignment sale... so in the end the cash(not cheque) price we paid was 1500 most guys just cant understand this but theres some that can.
so my point it tell them you will make a good private deal and they can skip the auctioneer and hopefully the tax man.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:37:22 PM
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That was kinda a figure that I was thinking it would be around too but I wanted to get some other input as well. Thanks.
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You could take the analytical approach:

1.) Scrap price @ $X=$Y
2.) New boiler (Hey Jeff, are you watching?) plus machining and restoration = $Z (you may or may not want to REALLY look at that #....)
3.) Any similar engine in that condition was sold for $?
4.) Remind everyone how your Grandparents would want their legacy to continue and that you are paying homage to them. Also remind them how you are continuing the agricultural heritage.
5.) Taking into consideration the above and the value from your family connection, what are you willing & able to pay?

Use the facts & factor in what you can seriously afford to spend on it. ( I have financed some steam engines BTW...)

Good Luck, you won't regret what it takes, if it is what you want....just don't let the family and lawyers know how bad you want it!

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We won't talk about the $$$, blood, sweat, tears, & FOOD that I have in mine, but I would not trade it for the world!
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We won't talk about the $$$, blood, sweat, tears, & FOOD that I have in mine,

We talking about a traction engine...............or a wife???
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MoRo!

I don't have a "wife!"

...but, I do have a fine 24 hp Port Huron with a sentimental value that is immeasurable!

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2.) New boiler (Hey Jeff, are you watching?) plus machining and restoration = $Z (you may or may not want to REALLY look at that #....)
Do you mean a shell that looks like this, and a firebox that looks like that?
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Yes I believe it does look like that. I hope to know more within a couple of months of what is happening with that particular engine. I hope everything will work out for us.
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Jeff,

The straw burning boiler looks nice. What size Advance is it for?

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I hope everything will work out for us.
I hope you are successful in you pusuit of this engine. I believe keeping it in the family would be great.

I hope someday to make it out to North Dakota to get a good look at this engine and get lots of pictures.

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Dan, that boiler is for a 22.
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Knowing that new boilers have already been fabricated for other straw burners will help.

Thanks Dan & Jeff.

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Would that 22 Advance boiler be a replacement for the one that sold on Rynda's sale in '04?
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Any "advance"ment?

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No, nothing has Ad Vanced as of yet. I may have more info after this coming weekend. Until then I don't know anything more. I just hope that somehow it works out.
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Good luck. Hope it all works out for you. It is irreplaceable, sentimentally wise.
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From bitter experience,don't trust family in something like this,make sure your lawyer gets you clear title as the legal owner with no later claims allowed.Even here in Western Australia we are learning to be careful---the family look at it when it is really scrap value then see what your labour and money has produced and want a further share,Norm
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