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Old 03-03-2010, 09:36:13 PM
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Have seen many classified ads lately describing an engine as "Barn Fresh". Now just what exactly does barn fresh mean? We've all seen the ' wont take much to get running, just needs mag, igniter, and gas tank' ads. . Would like some opinions on what constitutes barn fresh. Also would like to hear stories on barn fresh finds, good or bad.
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Old 03-03-2010, 09:50:25 PM
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Default Re: Barn Fresh ?

One barn fresh engine I got many years back was a 4hp associated that was in a chicken house with chickens running around. The engine was complete but pitted badly from all the chicken doo on it and was stuck. It was what I call barn fresh and the odor was definately barn fresh enough it that it needed a good hosing down before it went in the shop.
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Default Re: Barn Fresh ?

When I use the term "barn fresh" it's to describe an engine that is either fresh off the original farm/installation or not been monkeyed with since being removed from the original installation. That's not to say that it hasn't had a barnyard or blacksmith repair to fix a broken casting or cracked hopper. It's a general term to describe an engine that hasn't been fooled with except by the original purchaser.
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:02:41 PM
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Barn fresh is something such as an engine or tractor, that hasnt been moved, worked on, touched, found or budged since the olden days or by the original owner.

I see alot of misuse of the term barn fresh though. Something that has been recently worked, worked on, ran, painted or oiled is not barn fresh. That would be called an original or restored TOO it's original working state.
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My grand paw used to have a farm. You had to watch where you walked or you'd step in something barn fresh.
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Barn fresh means that only four collectors have owned it before you; each of whom bitched it up more and doubled the price. Al Wait
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Typical barn fresh finds are usually engines found as is, where is, at its location where it was used, and usually left unmolested for a good amount of time. I found a F/M 3 home light plant, 'barn fresh', in its original shed attached to the back of a partially collapsed house! The woman who owned it was still living in the structure, the entire second story had caved in, and even the first floor, for the most part. The woman said her husband installed the generater, new, in 1927, and it was used for 20 years. It was abandoned after 1947, when power was brought in from town. When I found it, in 1987, there was a 6" thick poison ivy vine growing thru the remains of the shed, with leaves 8" in diameter on it! A back hoe was brought in, what was left of the shed ripped down, and the generater was retrieved. I later traded the running unit to a friend for a trailer to haul my engines. For the most part, barn fresh engines are un-touched reminders of the past.
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Barn Fresh?

Item in a condition of how it was many years ago when last used and then stored in a barn, building, etc...

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Engine may be in any condition.
Engine may have been molested by the farmer, who knows.
Barn fresh may have nothing to do with it's a original owner.
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I always thought it meant freshly covered by cow manure, although chicken manure comes in a close second.

I agree with Sky that a lot of listings misuse the term
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If it was a barn on the right farm, it could even be organic!
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Barn fresh my terms

No new paint, mostly rust and grease possible traces of original paint, has some parts missing maybe just get the thing running repairs few welds, stuck, hasnt been touched mechanically in 50 or so yrs.

Things NOT to do with hard to find or mostly orignal engines

DO NOT PAINT leave as found. If this isnt possible then paint. Broken parts are a heck of alot better than no parts so welds that are good and tight just leave them. I think this adds too the life of the machine when it was running something. The less you do the better off you are. If it runs leave it.
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Back in the day when I was into cars more than old iron, a buddy & I always thought there was a '56 T-Bird out there somewhere in an old barn, just waiting for us to rescue it......never did find it, nor did the 2 hot chicks DRIVING a '56 Bird ever find us & haul us off to Cal....we had the American Graffiti dream before the movie came out.... oh, well....
Closest I've come is my 1-1/2 Novo & the Friend engine-they were in a 90-year old dude's barn for many years....

PS-THIS is the definition of "barn fresh" right here-it don't get any fresher.
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70644

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Barn fresh to me is: As found, no matter how many years ago and has been put up and not messed with and is now for sale.

These are worth more to me than lets say... a circus freak show engine
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Default Re: Barn Fresh?

My father has many items from the original owner off of the original farm where all dad did was buy it, load it and bring it home to put in his building as a "collection" but he did nothing to the engine other than oil or grease it to keep it from rusting anymore. To me, that is still a "barn fresh" engine because it has not been "molested". According to some of the view points above, these are not "barn fresh", but some of them have been in dad's collection since before I was born in 1970 so to me they are still "barn fresh" because they have only been moved to "squeeze" more engines into his engine building.

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I believe this is what they call barn fresh.

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Default Re: Barn Fresh?

I always thought "Barn Fresh" meant that the engine was just discovered & had not been worked on at all .JUST AS FOUND. might be all there maybe not.
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Does this qualify ?? My 6hp FMZ, I have all the parts.
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Default Re: Barn Fresh?

Barn Fresh can be bad as well. Purchased a Stover CT4 and after cleaning all the grease/oil off of it found that one of the flywheels had a significat crack. Guy who found it and sold it to me (at probably a 200% profit) most likely didn't know about the crack as it was under all the grime.

Something to think about is most of these engines were used until they broke to the point they couldn't be easisly repaired. So while you may find a gem you may find one that needs some serious work.
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I picked this one up today....I think it qualifies as barn fresh
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Default Re: Barn Fresh?

Seems like a common thread running through most of these ideas. Still it seems like a couple of different intreprations here. My problem with this term is that I see it used by a couple of guys on the ad site alot. I suspect it is way over used and hyped up. I am not saying that many of you have not found that great car, tractor or engine in a barn or shed that had been there for years. I think alot of guys selling on E Bay use it as a come on.
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