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Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp


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Old 09-09-2012, 12:27:49 PM
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Default Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

I recently got a FM diesel model 36 A 10 hp.
I am in need of info on bleeding air from the fuel system.
Is there a manual or other info available for this engine.
Any info is welcome.Thank You.
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Old 09-09-2012, 07:53:47 PM
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

The return line from the lift pump needs to return to the tank, teeing it in the supply line does not work. The screw on top of the injection pump is the blead screw (between the two lines). loosen it and pump the manual lever till no air bubbels come out. tighten it and loosen the injector line at the injector. with the compression release on crank the eng. over till fuel comes out there. tighten the line and crank some more ,you should hear the injector start making a squeaking noise each time it delivers fuel. Make sure the rack is free, pull towards you to stop eng. Mine is hand crank start, with release on crank as fast as you can and flip it off. should start, when cold heat in the air intake helps.Click image for larger version

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Old 09-12-2012, 05:10:31 PM
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

I have pictures of my FM 36A that I will post in two replies.
The fuel pump looks new and I am thinking it is not original ?
It shows no diesel residue .Would the bale thing be to manually acuate the pump?
Although the engine was in a barn for 20+ years, the unpainted injector and pump have surface rust on them.I cleaned and lubed the injection pp.rack but it does not move?I'm thinking it may not move without governor action.I ddn't want to break something.
Anyone know of a source for a owners or parts manual.I could not seem to find any with a Google search.
I appreciate any information or ideas you may have.
PS : Please excuse the paint color,I DIDN'T DO IT !
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

I recently bought same 36A single, I'm looking for complete Cylinder head (top end) maybe sleeve too. - note: any 36A with 1,2,34,6 and 8 cylinders are interchangeable.
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

.I cleaned and lubed the injection pp.rack but it does not move?I'm thinking it may not move without governor action.I ddn't want to break something.


DONT START IT UNTILL THE RACK CAN MOVE
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

Jim, try unhooking the gov. linkage. If it still doesn't move, the pump may be dry. A disassemble may be in order, but first try some WD.
Have you turned the engine over yet? There's a little timing window on the base of the pump, you should be able to see the plunger cup moving up and down. Gently turn the engine with the compression release open. If you feel any objectional resistance the pump may be stuck. If it turns over easily and the plunger doesn't move, it is likely stuck in the up position.
In either of those circumstances, and if it were mine, I would be tearing the pump down to see what's up.

If the plunger is moving try moving the rack while the plunger is moving.
Some times that will help loosening the rack.

If it comes down to a tear down, I can scan and send you some pages from an Am Bosch manual. They are not really complicated but there are some things that you will need to follow carefully. Otherwise your pump could end up on the scrap pile.
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This is my 3 cylinder genset shortly after I got it.
I wish the factory base came with it.

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Old 04-10-2014, 09:36:25 AM
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

Most likely situation as others have said is that your injector is stuck. If you google around you can find CAV/Bosch/Ambac manuals online for these units like here at a members (Lister Diesel) website:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/front.htm

I can high quality copy and nicely bind a Shop/Parts manual for a little money to cover costs if you wish, PM me your address.

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Oops this is an old initial post, oh well. For anyone that needs one offer on manual copies still stands.

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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

Anyone know who has extra complete head or parts around for my 36A ? I like to restore someday.
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

There's a chance that I might have access to some. I'll let you know if it pans out.

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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

I know this is an old thread but I was just wondering if Redwing ever found a head or was able to save the 36A generator set? I recently bought a restored 10hp 36A with no attachments and have found any information nearly impossible to come up with on this engine. I am fairly certain mine was originally a compressor set up but all the extras are long gone now. How long did they make the 36A and what all were they used for?
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

Scott, My volume 10 (1945) "Diesel Engine Catalog" lists the model 36 in 1,2,3,4,& 6 cyl of 4 1/2 X 6 bore and stroke having 10 HP/cyl and a larger model 36 of 5 1/2 7 1/2 in 6 & 8 cyl giving 20 HP/cyl. My next dated catalog of 1954 doesn't list the model 36 but lists engines of similar output made by Harnischfeger and Sheppard.
Model 36 described as medium speed, intended for hard continuous work in the stationary,industrial and marine fields. Industrial they list: locomotive cranes, power shovels, air compressors, small locomotives and similar. The larger engines were said to be designed to allow conversion to gaseous fuel. A very robust design with the crankshaft and bearings carried in the base NOT the cylinder block. Bearings and internals were accessed through the covers on the side.
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

Scott, not sure how long they made them, but they had many uses.
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse 36 A diesel 10 hp

My engine was originally an air starting compressor but all I have is the engine unfortunately. It is a 1943 by the serial number stamped in the base. The flywheel is very wide at almost 6 1/2" wide. Most I have seen were maybe up to 4" wide. The picture of the tag stamped in the radiator shroud reads Diesel Starting Air Compressor #1. Would anyone know if it might have possibly been in a ship or maybe used in a electric generating plant for the air start tanks?
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