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Found this thing in a garage. (Harley Davidson Utility Engine)


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Old 08-10-2018, 09:05:26 PM
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Default Found this thing in a garage. (Harley Davidson Utility Engine)

I found this old-timer in a garage sale and brought it home. I couldn't resist. But I have no idea what it is. I've never seen an engine where the magneto is driven with a chain drive. Plus the engine is canted about 15 or 20 ° from vertical. You can see it in the pictures. It's made this way.
I'd like to ID it and perhaps look into rebuilding it - assuming something resembling parts might be found.
Can anyone give me a hint? I'd sure love to tackle this thing.
Many Thanks!!
Doug
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Old 08-10-2018, 10:45:33 PM
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Default Re: Found this thing in a garage. Any idea what it might be?

I believe you have a Harley Davidson utility engine. Their name plate would have went over the magneto chain drive. Very very nice find. I hope you can put it back into running order!

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Old 08-10-2018, 10:56:01 PM
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Default Re: Found this thing in a garage. Any idea what it might be?

What a great old engine.... It looks familiar. No clue as to maker but I'm thinking a small vehicle motor. Wrong base for motorcycle, but maybe a trike?
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Looks like K-tron was posting while I was. I think he nailed it.
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Default Re: Found this thing in a garage. Any idea what it might be?

Awesome find! Chris is right. Here’s a photo of an engine with the cover on it.
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heres another.
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https://www.docshd.com/classic-car-cycle-museum.htm
Check out this link to Docs harley davidson dealership and umseum. They have a photo of one and they are good people. If you contact them they may be able to help with parts or restoration. Good luck.
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THANK YOU ALL!!
I'm thrilled at my new find. I'm hoping to restore it and now with the help I got here, that's possible.
I would have never guessed Harley made such a thing but I can't wait to dig into it.
Once I start, I'll post pictures of the progress and finished product.

Once again....A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HELP!!

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Thanks a bunch! This is the one! I'm excited to tear into it.

---------- Post added at 05:19:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:13:28 PM ----------

Well, I opened it up and it's in pretty good shape with one tiny little problem. The corner of the cylinder head is is broken off completely. I couldn't believe it.
So begins my quest for a possible replacement. Overall the internals are quite nice and the usual wear and tear of an old used engine. The exhaust valve looks like it was a bit too high on the lifter and cooked a little bit but nothing I can't take care of in the shop. The bore looks OK but I haven't checked it for out of round and am scared to do so. It's not likely there's oversize pistons and rings available for this .
One quick question: Does anyone know of any parts that might be had or available or someone that might have gaskets and the head? I need the magneto cover too. Seeing that it's an unusual engine, I'm going all out to restore it and get it running again. I hate static engine and only do that if the machine is a basket case, and even then I'm managed after years to find the parts I need to make them run again. I'm hoping to do so with this one.
I appreciate any direction anyone might convey to me and I'll keep everyone up on the restoration and rebuild.
Another thing, anyone able to estimate the year of this thing? I can't find serial numbers anywhere on it.
Thanks again...
Doug

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Very nice find boilermaker52
Good luck with the restore.
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Here is one application for these Harley utility engines. In 1930 to 1932 Shaw Manufacturing made a Model T45G (24 inch wheels) and a T45HW (32 inch wheels). The standard engine was a Briggs model R (3HP). This was the largest engine offered by Briggs at this time. As it was felt that more HP would be desirable, in 1932 they offered the 4HP Harley as an option. They also offered a 50G and a 50HW model with an 8HP twin cylinder Harley engine. In 1933 these models were all replaced with the model T45HD which was a completely different design tractor which used the new Briggs model Z engine rated at 4HP. I have never seen one of these with a Harley engine, but a do have both models with the Briggs R engine.

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