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Old 08-19-2018, 05:29:40 PM
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Hi folks, pick up a rough Cushman Binder to play with and noticed that on the head area, their are two flats milled out of it (Circled in red) I looked at others on the web ans some have this area milled and some are domed without it. I think is an earlier model as it is Battery and coil only setup with no mag brackets. The serial number starts at 25. Any ideas ? Thanks Smoke
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Old 08-20-2018, 09:19:42 AM
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i have one that is like that. mine is a later one made in the late 30s-early 40s i thought it might have been for another gas tank mount or something. mine has a wico X mag.
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Old 08-20-2018, 09:34:38 AM
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Hi Andy, whats your serial number if you don't mind. Mine is 25557.
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Old 08-21-2018, 07:33:01 AM
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mine is a model C34 listed at 4-6 hp serial # is A48546 i was told it was made from around 1936-42
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Old 09-13-2018, 11:28:01 AM
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Default Re: Cushman Binder Head Question

i have a cushman binder engine with a seirail number of 4869.
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i just bought another one last week the serial# is just a few numbers off from yours but it has a slick head no flat places. it also has a battery and coil and is on an original cart, except replacement wheels, with original gas and cooling tanks. it was bought new in Colorado. i don't know the age of it probably before 1920 ?
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Old 01-10-2019, 02:50:46 PM
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The short intake valve makes it an early one.
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Can anyone tell me what year this was made? Thank you.
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:38:13 AM
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I checked and mine is #25517 but has tall intake but probably a replacement
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:06:52 AM
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I have two engines, serial numbers 43580 and 24409. I understand that there no records left from the factory that built these engines, and tracking them down on year made is impossible? Someone correct me on that. It seems like there were many, many variations of this engine, or were they just improvements over the years?
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Default Re: Cushman Binder Head Question

I had eleven of those C's at one time, and nearly every one was different in some way. A couple had those flats on the top. I thought they were bosses that could be drilled and tapped for something. I sold every one of them to Mr. Cushman, Jim Brown in Nebraska. He was a great man.
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The cubs are like that too. i have a few and all are slightly different mostly small parts being made of different materials, steel, aluminum, brass, pot metal.
i guess the only way of getting age is to have some original bill of sales with serial # on it or if some original owners told family when they bought it.
I asked the guy i got my last one from and he said it was on a place his father bought years ago about 11,000 ft elevation in Colorado. the engine was old and rusty then but not stuck so he got it going.
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Default Re: Cushman Binder Head Question

Hello,

I have a 4 hp Cushman serial number 27,654.

I have posted this before, but will repeat it here. A number of years ago an old invoice was sold on Ebay. Its was dated June 11, 1919 and it was for two 4 hp skid outfits with serial numbers 31,598 and 31,550.

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that's the way to get an estimate, if a few more turn up like that we could get an idea of dates produced. maybe one just every 2 to 3 years apart would do it. so now we know ours and some others were made before 1919. andy
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