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I ain't got a "screamin Jimmy"... But if i get one?


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Old 10-04-2018, 08:18:03 AM
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Default I ain't got a "screamin Jimmy"... But if i get one?

This one is interesting. Please comment as I know nothing bout "Detroits".

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Detroit-606...s/302899515058
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Default Re: I ain't got a "screamin jimmy".... But if i get 1?

Looks like an old fire pump engine Mike. Notice the dual starter contractors up front and the rack solenoid on top of the governor. It will be a screamer all right and probably be a great runner!
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That's a 1967. Excellent engines. this has a Woodward hydraulic governor with a manual vernier speed adjustment. High quality.
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will it run slow? i can't drag it around to shows scareing people oft!

what about that 13000 mike!?
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Be aware how heavy these things really are. Plus it uses a heat exchanger for cooling so you would need a water supply or convert to a radiator. Maybe for just idling at a show, you could use a 55 gallon tank connected to circulate through the exchanger with no problems. It will most likely wet stack though. With 170 hp @ 1750 rpm it may have smaller injectors than a truck engine which would normally be about 238 hp @ 2100 rpm. Only way to tell accurately is to pull the valve cover and read the numbers. Would do this anyway if you want to buy it.
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That will run quite slow, around 350 or slow when hot.
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I agree with miltruck Mike. That engine will run nicely at all speeds but you will see some slobbering and smoke from the exhaust after long periods of idling. Pretty similar to your Cummins. Thatís why I like generators, easy to load up and clear out... Better for them in the long run.
The 13000 is still resting, been working on my Bessemer project. You have to find a good load for your 13000!
Hope you get the Detroit!
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Default Re: I ain't got a "screamin Jimmy"... But if i get one?

I love a good running Detroit. They just sound like pure power! I have a 2-71 in an Allis-Chalmers HD-5 crawler with a Tractomotive Shovel on it. It doesn’t have enough cylinders to really get screaming, but it does yell pretty loud! Some neighbors of ours used to run a sawmill with an 8V-92. Now, that thing would get your attention when they wound it up! You always knew when they were running the mill.

Looks like a great engine for you, Mike! Go for it!
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Default Re: I ain't got a "screamin Jimmy"... But if i get one?

A "screamin Jimmy" is on my list too. That one looks like a nicer specimen.

They have a totally different tone when running loaded. May be hard to get this one loaded. find someone with a tractor dyno to get a load on it.
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She just needs an air starter and a set of jake brakes and you are set for the show circuit!

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Air starter..... yeah man. then you hope it dies every now and agin just to hear it start back up.
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i had first right of refusal last spring on that v8 herc diesel in Massachusetts and kicking myself for letting it go. (no trailer with me out there). there are tractor dynos at all the shows i go to. thinking hard
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The option plate shows that you have a model 6061A with a HV7 (type 12) fuel injector. The engine is a standard not (N) and has a two valve cylinder head. If the engine does not have a raw water pump the heat exchanger was cooled by some external pressure water source. If you installed a smaller straight body N injector , there would be less wet stacking. Clean looking power unit. AL
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You can get a HN injector for it. That is a "N" injector in a "HV" body. I did that when I rebuilt a 2 valve 6-71. I went from HV70s to HN55s.
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That's what I did on my 1945 6-71. Went from HV70s to HN60. Runs very clean.
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Screaming Jimmys Ö ya' I still have vivid recollections of the time that as a young (1965) engineering student at GM here in Detroit we got a tour of the Detroit Diesel Plant here on Telegraph road. The engines lined up in the dyno test cells were most impressive. Running at full bore the sound was "earth shaking" Ö still fondly remember that.


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My first experience with the screaming Jimmy was back in my petro chem days as a young labor hand.

The fire suppression system had several V16s that ran the fire pumps. We had to load test the pumps monthly. The maintenance guys didn't like doing all the valving to get the discharge to go out the test header. so they came by and picked up a labor hand to do the valve turning. Even with double ear protection when that baby fired off I was astounded by the noise. A 10in stream of water spraying 50 ft out into the holding basin was impressive to a 20 yr old. I was hooked. I volunteered to do the valves from then on. Within a year or so I was running all the tests while the mechanics slept in the truck.
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Im picking up this screaming P&H soon. Don't know much about it. Supposed to be similar to a Detroit.
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Fig, please tell us more about that P&H when you get it!!! That engine deserves its own thread. The 2 cycles P&Hs are some really unique engines. I have never actually seen a P&H with a turbocharger on it outside of some advertisements. Normally the inline 6 with the twin shaft driven Schwitzer blowers is designated as a 687C, but some vague literature I have states that the turbocharged engines were a model H. Perhaps yours is a 687H? I hope your engine does not have symptoms of cavitation as most P&H diesels did. It would be so nice to hear that ole girl screaming away.

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