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Old 12-27-2005, 11:51:02 AM
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That is how an email I received started. The person I got it from posted an inquiry on this forum to get help identifying an engine he had a chance to buy. It was an Hercules and it was missing the mixer. I replyed that I had a mixer and if he bought the engine he could have the mixer if he paid the postage. Generous of me, but I collect only Ottawa engines and the mixer served no purpose to me. It came on a ottawa engine and I didnt plan to use it. I have given lots of stuff to people who need it just because this is a great hobby with great people. I sent the item to him November 20th, Emailed him at least five times since and he wont even awknowledge my contact. I guess if I would have charged him for it and waited till I got the money then he would have contacted me. Just a little thing but shows that there are those that will take advantage if given the opportunity.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:07:02 PM
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I have given away a fair amount of stuff. Some I hear from some I don't. Reminds me of an old ethnic saying. "If you want to do someone a favor sell them something cheap. If they buy it at a low cost they figure they got a good deal. If they get it free they figure it's worth what they paid." The more you think about it the truer it sounds. What happens to most of the cars that parents give their kids? What happens to the ones they work to buy?

Old 12-27-2005, 12:36:11 PM
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Kind of makes you feel like when you answer a question on this board and then never acknowledged by the person who first asked the question, no thanks or anything a simple "thanks" goes a long way in my book. 99% of the time this doesn't happen (no response that is) and it makes you feel good about helping others, but there is one person who has a habit of asking lots of questions and never saying if your answers worked or anything at all. Good post.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:44:51 PM
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Which goes to show that COMMON courtesy really isn't.
Old 12-27-2005, 12:58:44 PM
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It's too bad that there is always a few bad eggs in the bunch. I had a chance to deal with Dan Baalman a year ago on some Dempster parts. You won't find a nicer guy to deal with, and your help is not forgotten.Dan, maybe we'll see you in Rollag In 06 ??. thanks a bunch, and Happy New Year.
Old 12-27-2005, 01:52:59 PM
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Then there are the guys that you seem to be getting along just fine and they turn out otherwise. Was dealing with a guy - sold him some parts, traded some parts and all was well. Sent him some engine manual reprints he asked for figuring he would be good for it but never received payment. Several e-mails have been ignored, so he's now on my very short list of people I won't deal with again. On the other hand, I have a very long list of good people that I am glad to have either met or made some acquaintence with more than makes up for it! Without the help of some of these folks I'd never have gotten as far as I have. To all of them - a sincere Thank You!
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:30:58 PM
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May I be a member of your Fan Club?

Dan is a nice, very generous person!

And we do know how you feel!

I really love the people who won't give a last name or an address until you are going to send something snail mail.

Fortunately, most people will acknowledge and thank you.

Early Happy New Year to all of you!

Old 12-27-2005, 08:34:19 PM
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Well On the other hand I have been very fortunate. I have given parts away or manuals several times. I did'nt expect anything back, I gave it away. A thank you would be a nice thing to recieve and I have always recieved a thank you. In fact every single time that I told someone that I was just going to send them something and not to worry about sending me any money, they always offered to pay for whatever and send something. My standard answer has usually been no, If you get the chance to help someone else then that is payment enough. I actually have been blessed in these type of dealings. One time I recieved a gift card from Applebees resturant with a note saying you and yours have a dinner on me. That was nice. A few times I have recieved a note with a $20.00 bill inside saying thanks. And everytime I have recieved at least a thank you, and in the note a statement of "If I can ever help you with anything, just let me know" so I have absolutly no complaints, and I do believe that the people on here, and the one's I have had dealings with are GREAT.
Old 12-27-2005, 09:03:47 PM
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While I understand what your saying I guess I am different that way. I think a thank you is nice but I don't really expect one. Giving something for nothing often gets nothing in return. Doing business with someone and that person doesn't produce on his behalf is a different thing though. Like when I saved up 10,000 dallors over 7 years to get my 1972 Dodge Ralleye Charger restored. Had to give 2500.00 up front. It paid for supplies and sandblasting. He did some work then needed more money. This went on for 4 years, while he did very little work then eventually my car was in storage for some reason. Then I finally found my car. Then he left the state.In the end he ripped off a total of 50,000 dallors in this area. 10,000 and a 1998 Artic Cat ZR from me.Police don't do nothing.They can't because we all brought our cars to a place of business at our own risk.Can't take him to court because nobody knows where he is.If he filed bankrupt then we can't do nothing to him anyway.The car was my brothers that passed away, mean't everything to me, can't afford to stick another 10,000 in it.Anyway, as long as everyone else is complaining thought I would to.Thank You. Dan Sheldon
Old 12-27-2005, 09:20:39 PM
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Guess some replies have been heat warming and some have been horror stories, I, too have been bitten by someone's sobbing or not doing what they were paid for. It's sad that someone takes advantage of someone's generosity without so much as a heartfelt response. What is more dishartning is for someone to poor mouth to you about how badly they need something, and you fall for it, feel sorry for them and decide to help someone only to find out, they turned right around and sold what you gave them. The United States of America is a generous country, and sometimes we are taken advantage of. I continue to hope that most of the generosity we give finds its way to appreciative hands
Old 01-15-2006, 02:40:26 AM
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Well I started this thread out of frustration and now will end it with a little more patience. Nate was out of town enjoying the holidays and wasn't able to respond to my queries. He has made the situation right and I thank him for all he did over and above what I expected. I just need to learn to chill in my old age. Nate thanks and sorry for my impatience. DAN
Old 01-15-2006, 05:40:32 AM
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Nice that it worked out OK, but in my experience folks do leave too much time to acknowledge receipt of a favour, or at least to let you know things have arrived.

We get a large amount of engine and machine tool enquiries through our website, and while we nearly always manage to fire off a response within an hour or so of the request arriving, it is sadly often the case that we never get a simple 'thank you' from the person sending the enquiry. When we do get a response, it makes it worthwhile.

Old 01-15-2006, 10:26:28 AM
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The only time I have been ignored for a gift is when I gave a guy the jug, piston and pin that I'd replaced with the original parts on my Jack of All Trades so he could restore his engine.

I left it with a fellow engine guy at a show for him to pick up because I had to leave early.

After not hearing from him for several weeks, I emailed him to ask if he got the parts all right. After a long while, the reply was that yes, he'd gotten them. I don't think he ever even thanked me.

It's not a huge deal and it doesn't put me off of doing stuff for folks but it is always nice to be thanked.

Take care - Elden
Old 01-15-2006, 11:42:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ListerDiesel
it is sadly often the case that we never get a simple 'thank you' from the person sending the enquiry.
I've noted a lot of that, too. Both here on the board - mainly from very new members, and at work. Seem like hitting the 'reply' button to say thanks should be pretty easy...

But then there was the guy who, after I gave him an answer to his question, sent me a check for me to buy a case of beer!
Old 01-15-2006, 01:24:20 PM
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Do you still have his address Jim? I'd like to see if I could answer a question for him too!!!
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You are right a Thank You cost nothing and the benefits you get back are priceless. While we are at it , If you write your name and address on the back of a Fifty dollar bill and send it to me I will send you a nice Thank You card
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Just don't even think about doing that with a personal check! I found out last week that dealing with a personal check, to some people, is liking dealing with the devil himself. I've been looking for a Bosch AB-34 mag for my dad, for his three horse Fairbanks Z, for quite some time now. A man recently contacted me saying that he had one for sale so I thought great, I can get it for him for his birthday which was January, 7th. I was in Japan before that so I hadn't gotten him anything yet. Well, to make a long story short, he asked for a money order and I explained to him that I get to work before the banks open and go home after they are closed...I cannot get a money order. But a check will clear...he said "Since neither of us is comfortable with this deal" let's call it off. Apparently the fact that I can't get to a bank when it's open means I'm not comfortable with writing a check. I had to take a vacation day to go to the bank to set up funds for my trip to Japan. Sorry...I'm just a bit frustrated, and insulted. My checks are as good as cash. Maybe I should have offered to send him cash instead.
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All it takes is one or two bad experiences with NSF cheques or even an error in body and figures costing excess bank charges when the check is bounced back to your account, to turn someone off cheques when dealing with an unknown person.

Some postal outlets operated in retail stores may sell money orders after regular post office or bank hours and may even take a check in payment if you're known there.

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I met Nate about a year ago..Could Not Ask for a finer fellow. Went way out of his way to help me out. a fellow once told me that a grunt could start a misunderstanding. the more i think about it the more i know its true.

i was having trouble with a fellow once..only to find out he was not responding because he had been killed in an industrial accident the day after i closed a deal with him...
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Thanks Dan for clearing this up...I understand that folks can get a bit frustrated
its all part of our make up...and it is a great hobby with great people...Again Thanks Dan
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