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Old 06-21-2009, 02:43:07 PM
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Didn't want to start a new thread on the Coolspring Show and maybe some of you guys don't want your significant other to know this but I am going to mention it any how! For those of you that weren't at the Show, there are now flush toilets and paid showers! That was an expensive undertaking considering that Coolspring Power Museum does not have a large source of income! This has to be an asset to future shows at Coolspring, that creek is very cold in the summertime! Helen
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Well my flock has been put away. Does anyone know who had the 2.5 T that left Friday night or Saturday morning that was parked all the way at the back? Seems to have gotten under the radar. Glad to put some faces with names. While the show is fresh in our minds would there be interest in possibly asking to have a Hvid/Oil engine show as a feature show at CPM? Thoughts? If any of the powers to be of CPM read this feel free to comment.
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I did manage to crank and run my Brantford Hvid awhile on Friday night

Well at least you offset some of the climate change we where doing in Pa. It is a shame Texas and Pa are not a little closer.
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We got home from Coolspring and unloaded the 5 HP Model T Thermoil. Put the crank to her and she started right up. Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIiUWL-N-6M
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There goes the property value of the neighborhood. Looks good Keith. Is your arm getting used to the crank by now.
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I do need to bulk my right arm up a bit.
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Hey Kyle K
I see you have a Brantford. I wonder if my Hoag is similar. Anyway you have quite the fleet and I wondered if you can help me with my injector problem. I am having a hard time getting fuel through the metering rod assembly. What is that supposed to look like in there? The pin just sits there with no spring action. I have had it appart to inspect and relapped the fuel admiting valve but if I recall correctly I should be able to spray carbcleaner easily through all the ports. Where the metering rod or pin goes in it is blocked and spray will not go through.
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John:

I'm not familiar with your particular engine but all Hvids are about the same.

With the fuel needle out, you should have a clear passage through to the fuel admitting valve seat.

You could have a gob of dirt or some built-up carbon blocking the passage.

Also, it would be interesting to know if yours is supposed to have a return spring to keep the fuel needle open 'til the governor closes it. Without a spring, the needle will act like a check valve that works in the exact wrong direction.

Take care - Elden
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Hey Elden
Thanks for the response. Our show starts on Friday so I am low on time. I have to believe also there should be a spring but where did it go. There is no shoulder on the rod so did the spring go up against the point? Also there looks to be a sleeve for the metering rod in the body that looks frozen solid. The spring may have disintegrated from corrosion and then went down in the hole. I have a 6" jobber bit that is at least 3/32" in diameter. Should I go down in there with that or should I try to come up from the hole in the admitting valve seat? I would still have to figure out a spring.
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John,
I can try to take a couple of photos tonight if I get the chance.
I am going to guess from your description that the metering rod is stuck in the hole. What you are calling a "pin" is actually the pin that operates the metering rod. It's ~1/8" in diameter and 1 3/4" long??
The metering rod itself is 1/2" in diameter at the top with ~5/16" hole ~1/2 deep, steps down to ~1/4" in diameter, then the actual metering part at the bottom end is ~3/32". The overall length is ~3 1/2". It is spring-loaded with a spring resting in the bottom of the hole and pushing up on the shoulder created by the step-down from 1/2 to 1/4 in diameter.
Please don't do ANY drilling until you are sure what exactly you are doing.
If the metering rod is in fact stuck, the best way to pull it is thread the inside then attach a slide hammer and bump it out.
Let me or someone get more information to you.

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