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Old 04-09-2011, 12:25:26 PM
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Default Re: Coolspring: Ohio Engine Trivia

While not completely a gas engine the Hooven-Owens-Rentschler was a sideshaft .
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Well Preston, they keep naming the things I keep coming up with, but there is a few I can think of...

C G Cooper was the name I think Nick was thinking Mt. Vernon,Oh.
American gas engine Co.- Cincinnati. Oh.
Portsmith engine Co.- Portsmith, Oh.
Delta gas engine- Delta, Oh.
Champion Thresher Co.- Orrville, Oh.
Crown Machine Co.- Dayton, Oh.

I'v got two more, lets see if anyone can get them......DH
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Dave you had some great additions to the list. My known list only has one left and you have two. Engine lander's may get them also. By my count we are at 38!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bruce Macbeth? I can't find a good picture of one, but it sticks in my mind that it uses a layshaft to run an overhead cam like a type A Springfield.

Never mind, it's a vertical engine and ineligble for this question.

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Ok, well I guess no one else going to add, so I will put on the rest I know of...

M.J. Sullivan.- Springfield, Oh. And its not the one in Wendel's 2nd book
American Gas engine, there was one also in Springfield,Oh.
Boos Machine Co. St.Marys,Oh.
Hydraulic Press Mfg.Co.- Mt.Gilead,Oh.
William Tod Co.-Youngstown,Oh. Some one had this listed, but they spelled it Todd, so I'm not sure if they ment the same.
And someone told me Elmore Mfg.- Clide,Oh. but they were not sure if it was a Sideshaft.......
Thats all I can come up with...............DH.
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Default Re: Coolspring: Ohio Engine Trivia

A few new names mentioned I never heard before, Interesting ! I wonder if photos could be posted for those who have not seen these before?
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Isn't Hydraulic Press a rebadged Ohio?

I thought you only had two left to put on the list.
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Dave: Thanks for adding to the list. You added the last one that I had. Tod is the correct spelling. The Elmore was not a side shaft engine. They were a very crude upright engine. I owned one in the early 1970's and sold it to an Ohio built engine collector. It has since been sold and I have lost track of it.

If the list is correct it has 42 builders on it. If we are off by 2 or 3 it is still one impressive list.
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I'd love to see pics, adds or whatever of some of those engines mentioned. Here's a pic off google of the Cooper made in Mt. Vernon.

A little off subject but to answer John's question on the inverted Kenton engine, my dad seen it at a farm auction not far from Kenton. There was a quite a few engines there (all more common stuff) but everything was missing parts & looked like it all was drug out of a junkyard. The Kenton was just the block. He said it was a tank cooled, invert with a side or over hung crank & it had Kenton Gas Engine Company cast on it. He also said it was fairly good size, bigger than an inverted Webster.

I gave him some heck tonight about not bringing it back ha-ha but he said this was back around 1970 or 71 (before he had a machine shop set up) & there was a lot better & more complete engines to buy. I was always hoping that block would turn back up.

Here's a write up on Kenton from goggle. The engine pictured looks like a push rod. It says they were in business at least 10 years so no telling what all they made earlier. Would the invert be the vertical mentioned in there?

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I thought you only had two left to put on the list.
Well Between Dad and one of our friends in Ky. that reads on here but is not a Subscriber, they both added one each to what I had... Terry told me about the M.J.Sullivan and has done some Patent searches on it and found the Side shaft.
The others are in Wendels book 2....

Wayne, I don't know if you were going to Coolsprings back in the middle 90's ??? but there was an American gas engine there in 94 or 95... The owner was not sure back then what it was... The Delta looks a lot like an Ohio, and there is one of them over in Indiana, and the Portsmith engine was the new name of New Era engines after they moved from Dayton.

Mike, I do not know, there was a few engines built around the state that looks alot like an Ohio, ( like the Delta ) but there are a lot of things that are different....You make the call. All the guys that no for sure are Dead and gone
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Nar--thanks for the story on the inverted Kenton. Kenton most likely called their inverted model a vertical. I have only seen adds that listed it at 3HP. Hopefully somebody saved the block, probably the only surviving part left of a very unusual engine.
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John, Your probably correct. Either engines were horizontal or vertical. Stiles Brabley told me this. They only cared about the positon of the cylinder, not where the head was. I've never seen original literature that called an engine inverted, just vertical.
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I have an ohio built engines co's count of 105. Did i say 105? yes thats correct. if you guys are interested to see my list, i guess i can type them all in here.
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I am sure there are lots of us out here in Ohio who would like to see the list.
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I have an ohio built engines co's count of 105. Did i say 105? yes thats correct. if you guys are interested to see my list, i guess i can type them all in here.
Andrew, If you only have 105 on you're list of Ohio Built engines you are missing about 40 or 50. I have lost track of how many my Dad has found, He has been doing resurch for over 20 years. Pm me and we can compair some nots....DH
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Here is the list of Ohio engine builders who made side shaft engines. There are 41 builders on the list.

AMERICAN GAS ENGINE CO., AMERICAN GAS ENGINE CO., CINCINNATI
AMERICAN ENGINEERING CO., AMERICAN ENGINEERING CO., SPRINGFIELD
BAUROTH, BAUROTH BROS., SPRINGFIELD
BENNINGHOFEN TWIN, BENNINGHOFEN & SON'S CO., HAMILTON
BOOS OIL ENGINE, BOOS MACHINE CO., ST MARY'S
BROWN, BROWN GAS ENGINE CO., COLUMBUS
BROWN & COCKRAN, BROWN - COCKRAN CO., LORIAN
BUCKEYE, BUCKEYE ENGINE CO., SALEM
C G COOPER, C & G COOPER CO., MT VERNON
CALLAHAN, W P CALLAHAN & CO., DAYTON
CHAMPION, HAMPION THRESHER CO., ORRVILLE
COLUMBUS, COLUMBUS MACHINE CO., COLUMBUS
COOPER-BESSEMER, COOPER-BESSEMER CORP., MT VERNON
CROWN, CROWN MACHINE WORKS, DAYTON
DELTA, DELTA GAS ENGINE CO., DELTA
ELYRIA, ELYRIA GAS ENGINE CO., ELYRIA
FOOS, FOOS GAS ENGINE CO., SPRINGFIELD
HALLETT, HALLET GAS ENGINE CO., BUCYRUS
HAMILTON, ADVANVE MFG. CO., HAMILTON
HICKS, HICKS GAS ENGINE CO., CLEVELAND
HOOVEN-OWENS-RENTSCHLER, HOOVEN-OWENS-RENTSCHLER CO., HAMILTON
LIMA, LIMA GAS ENGINE CO., LIMIA
SULLIVAN, M J SULLIVAN, SPRINGFIELD
MIAMI, MIDDLETOWN MACHINE CO., MIDDLETOWN
MILLER, MILLER IMPROVED GAS ENGINE CO., SPRINGFIELD
NEW ERA, NEW ERA GAS ENGINE CO., DAYTON
OHIO, OHIO ENGINE CO., SANDUSKY
OHIO GAS, GASOLINE & OIL ENGINES SMEDLEY STEAM PUMP, SANDUSKY
PORTSMITH, PORTSMITH ENGINE CO., PORTSMITH
RASER, RASER GAS ENGINE WORKS, ASHTABULA
SANDUSKY, SANDUSKY FOUNDRY & MACHINE CO., SANDUSKY
SHAWD, SHAWD GAS ENGINE CO., SPRINGFIELD
SPRINGFIELD, SPRINGFIELD GAS ENGINE CO., SPRINGFIELD
ST MARYS, ST MARYS MACHINE CO., ST MARY'S
STAR, STAR MANUFACTURING CO., NEW LEXINGTON
SUPERIOR, SUPERIOR GAS ENGINE CO., SPRINGFIELD
SWAN, JOHN D SWAN CO., LIMIA
TOD, WILLIAN TOD CO., YOUNGSTOWN
WATKINS , WATKINS MFG CO., CINCINNATI
HYDRAULIC PRESS MFG CO., HYDRAULIC PRESS MFG CO., MT GILEAD
UNDERWOOD, UNDERWOOD MOTOR CO., UPPER SANDUSKY
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Preston,
Thanks! What an impressive list. Now, how many can be represented at Coolspring Show, either in iron or illustration?

How many more would be added if verticals were included?
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Well I will take one of each one. I will take all that you guys want to DONATE !!! Just remember to bring any engines built in Ohio. At CPM 2012. Marty
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