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John Deere Governor Configuration - Splash Oil


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Old 05-21-2018, 12:45:49 PM
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Question John Deere Governor Configuration - Splash Oil

Pictured is a JD governor and then the governor (with brazed splasher) that was in my engine. Which is original?

Does the original style work well?
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Default Re: John Deere governor configuration - splash oil

The new one pictured is mine yours has been bubbaed at a minimum I would replace the center shaft and cotter pins your style is for the later engines for increased oiling why they thought they needed that is beyond comprehension I tell my customers to cut the flappers off .
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If I cut the flappers off, would the flyweights sling the oil? If not, what does sling the oil?
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Default Re: John Deere governor configuration - splash oil

The usual issue with those engines is too much oil being slung around. The weights dipping into the oil in the cup on the oil pan is enough. If that engine doesn't oil, it's because it's out of oil, usually caused by pinhole leaks in the oil pan into the fuel tank. A rebuild of one of those engines usually takes replacement of the oil pan, and often, the fuel tank.

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Bill and Mitch,

Pictured is the oil pan and dish from the engine. Bubba definitely worked on this one. The governor AND splasher both fit inside the custom reservoir. I've seen pictures of what looks like an original style reservoir - looks like a Mason jar lid, fastened to the oil pan.
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That is the original style cup for that governor but its seen better days ! after eliminating the flying fingers on the old gov. shaft the new round ones work much better . mitch@lightningmagneto
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Mitch,

I visited lightningmagneto.com (your website/store?) and clicked "JD Polytanks and pans; did not see any pictures of the items as on your other JD webpages' parts. The gas tank and oil pan seem to be $80; correct? Do you have pictures of those parts or did I miss those somewhere?
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Default Re: John Deere Governor Configuration - Splash Oil

While you have that pan out it, it would be neat to show others how the oil gets into the gas tank, see all of those little rust pock marks, I bet if you hold it up to a very bright light or the sun, with a camera on dark side. It would look like a piece of screen wire, albeit smaller , but, NO matter how good you braze those holes up when pock marked like that, it will eventually spring another leak, and all the time , money for gaskets and new paint if painted will be thrown in the trash can!! A good rule of thumb , if the gas tank is good and not rusted out from outside in, you can bet the crankcase bottom is screen wire!! One of the reasons so many where set aside , except when electricity came on the farm, was the oil gets in gas, REAL bad on a working engine, and they thought the rings or cyl was shot, and stuck in the barn, or scrap iron pile and forgotten about....
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I apologize for that old web site it is a antique but just hold on a brand new one with a online store is almost done I will be sure to let everyone know asap . better pictures are on my ebay store lightingmag the currant oil pan price is $45 with the cup and a new poly tank is $50, Thanks, Mitch
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Default Re: John Deere Governor Configuration - Splash Oil

Yeah Rich, I noticed that oil pan was pitted on my engine at disassembly as well. Someone previously had been into the lower engine area and changed things - probably Bubba. He had altered the splash cup as well. Wish I knew what the *original* pan and cup looked like for curiousity. And, yes, the gas tank had been soldered multiple times with patches. Will give some thought as to how to handle the accumulated moisture that gets trapped in those volumes.
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