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Hey Dave Greyhound !

I found this photo today. Photo was taken in 1993-94 at the Crown Point, Indiana steam and gas show. At the time I was with my grandpa to see his Greyhound. The engine is now owned by Bischoff Family of Indiana.
Dave , Have your son tried set up photo? Come on up post your photo and message.

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What a great post! Being just outside of Toledo, banting and Greyhound has been an interest of mine. Back a couple of years ago I tried bidding on 2 threshers at an auction outside of Genoa Ohio. Thought it would be nice to use one at our local show from time to time. They both went out to Iowa with the same man. If you ever get a chance to go through the old plant Let me know that would be fun to poke around and see what is left.
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I think I spoke with you once when I was there with Jerred Ruble bidding at Genoa auction. Both Greyhound threshers went to the Heritage Park of North Iowa Forest City, Iowa. Jerred and his wife picked me up here in Indiana to Genoa. We had a grand time load and haul. It took Jerred nearly 600 miles one way twice hauled! Everything went fine.
Photo enclosed of my 26 X 42 Greyhound thresher. It may look identical. The wheels are different what Jerred has. Mine is press steel rib. Jerred has cast flat wheels. Mine would be the newer style. Jerred has a logo saying " Banting Mfg Co." Mine is "The Banting Co." side first photo.



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I have scanned from a large 1920's original Banting Greyhound catalog.

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By the time when I first started researching Banting Greyhound in 1997. I was computer less until I had started in February 2000. In spring of 1997 I went to Toledo, Ohio Public library in a Special Collections department. I have received the first search about John William Banting then few other copies such as receipt, stock certificate. Here are three copies available to view.





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A copy from a original The American Thresherman and Farm Power magazine May 1921 page 44. I thought this was a neat character of speaking. Think it over! What make you buy it and order it early before its too late. In my research. The reason why they advertise is the plant manufacturing is much smaller with 79 employees. My figures when I search in Ohio business directory book. Aultman & Taylor manufacturing in Mansfield Ohio was over 900 employees. It made a big difference.
Would you buy a Greyhound before it's too late?

Check the listings of jobber dealer to your nearest hometown/ state. Let me know if you have found archive jobber dealer stuff at your local library history resource. Sure appreciate your finding.

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with 2 greyhound dealers in Missouri you would think there would be some equipment around hear yet, i don't remember seeing any at any of the shows around hear i go to, the only greyhound steam engine i can remember any of the old timers talking about was the one that was at Ed Peacocks show at Fulton Mo. in the 50s early 60s
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with 2 greyhound dealers in Missouri you would think there would be some equipment around hear yet, i don't remember seeing any at any of the shows around hear i go to, the only greyhound steam engine i can remember any of the old timers talking about was the one that was at Ed Peacocks show at Fulton Mo. in the 50s early 60s

I try to find the 1st owner before Peacock had. I have seen an article in www.newspaperarchive.com with Mr Peacock active at show. Here are the two original back side Greyhound literature. You will see the names and where they were located when it was new. Any comments let me know.

Image literature actual size 3 1/2 inch by 6 inches.





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In my research history. I have looked through some of distributors for The Banting Mfg Co. Right now I am contacting some state city historic resource public libraries for any archival business photos, newspaper. It be neat to see all machinery sat in or out of building sight. Some of family farm stays in all generations. Library do have early 1900 farm map.

Like I said if Chuck Sindelar do a lot of research on JI Case serial numbers and others. I am sure Chuck have seen a CASE distributor lists, archive photo store fronts, etc somewhere in USA and Canada. Right ? All other makes could be found.

Soon I will be posting this forums with over 100 peoples name, city and states where the machinery were sold new. With peoples name are the main things i want to post in text typing. It can be a searchable in Google. Those family generations can be found and contact here or private message.

First photo is a copy from a 1921-22 fold out advertising flyer. Beautiful fantastic piece. I would be making a poster. Distributed by F. G. Batchellor & Co. Geneseo and Newark, New York.

Second photo is a 1920 front of fold out advertising flyer comes from Birdsall Engine Co. Distributor Newark, Wayne Co. New York

Third photo is a 1919. Same as a second photo. It was a distributor of Theodore McCade Mc Cade of Ashton, Illinois
Names of people listed you might know of.

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Up to date news,
I have posted while back about a Greyhound engine for sale. The engine haven't sold yet. Located in Bulger, Pa. I hear some rumors been spread with condition and prices.
I called him recently about the boiler condition. He have a gentleman checked the boiler two weeks ago. He said the boiler seem to be good. The flue sheet and flues has been replaced a year ago. He plan on going for another ultrasound thickness test. The owner does not know the price. He said he may have fair price to approve boiler condition. I know one person maybe plan on buying it.

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Another scanned photo postcard of smaller Greyhound engine. Some years back When I searched the Greyhound item in the flea market at Portland, Indiana. I discovered in a box over by tractor parts. I bought it reasonable. Photo postcard has no description on the back. I have no idea who were they standing by the engine. All I could tell the front smokebox door now belongs to Jerred Ruble.
Last week I have searched online newspaperarchive.com . I have found a existing photo much identical to one of postcard! Newspaper was circulate from Mason City Globe- Gazzette Mason City, Iowa 9-23-1965 page 18. The Husband and wife are standing by the engine.
The paper quote saying " Going to the Fair, Mrs Irma Warneke owner, and her husband Lorenze Warneke, Hudson, Iowa look over the Greyhound steam engine. They will take to the Dairy Cattle Congress in Waterloo October 2 - 10. It was built in 1921. It is one of the old-time steam engines and early day tractors which will be shown at Antique Acres a free exhibit at the fair"

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Photo #1 Original company logo screen painting 18 1/4 inch wide by 11 inch deep
Photo # 2 Original 5 3/4 by 3 inches 7/8 thick printing block. As you can see all letters backward. Rare! I have found only one in my collection.





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Photo #1 is a an early Greyhound with different logo and bunker. The water gauge is in between left wrapper and rear wheel.

Photo # 2 is a later model came out more appearance of bunker and company logo. The water gauge shows ahead of rear wheel above water tank.




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Videos last year show. Someone has made the video of Baker and a Greyhound. 9 min 31 seconds
dial up user beware takes long to download. AD Baker running full throttle with water brake. Greyhound pulling ease at half throttle with baker fan..



Another Greyhound on a belt. Someone video at NTA 22 seconds

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I have another good shot photo. My 24hp Greyhound with water tank. The rest of photos have water tank removed.

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Some years back I have discovered someone's photo copy of larger Greyhound. The place is unknown. I have identify a rear wheel a newer style. The engine I have is much identical to this. The casting on left hub cap was irregular shape match to mine. I was told the coal shovel was originally came since new. The optional accessories are on my engine. The wood platform are all original match exactly ! Same thick flat diameter cast cleats with square head sunk. The rest of Greyhound I have seen are riveted cleats triangular shape cast.
It could amazed me if this is one of my engine?
Someone told me this photo came from a steam magazine publisher. There are at least five steam engine magazine publishers during 50-70's Does any one remember this photo in magazine ? Photo taken in mid twenties pulling a Greyhound thresher nearby barn. Neat photo

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Another scanned photo postcard of smaller Greyhound engine. Some years back When I searched the Greyhound item in the flea market at Portland, Indiana. I discovered in a box over by tractor parts. I bought it reasonable. Photo postcard has no description on the back. I have no idea who were they standing by the engine. All I could tell the front smokebox door now belongs to Jerred Ruble.
Last week I have searched online newspaperarchive.com . I have found a existing photo much identical to one of postcard! Newspaper was circulate from Mason City Globe- Gazzette Mason City, Iowa 9-23-1965 page 18. The Husband and wife are standing by the engine.
The paper quote saying " Going to the Fair, Mrs Irma Warneke owner, and her husband Lorenze Warneke, Hudson, Iowa look over the Greyhound steam engine. They will take to the Dairy Cattle Congress in Waterloo October 2 - 10. It was built in 1921. It is one of the old-time steam engines and early day tractors which will be shown at Antique Acres a free exhibit at the fair"


Craig, That is definately the Ruble engine. It has the tank treads on the rear wheels and the large bunkers. Looks like it was sporting a pretty fresh paint job in 1965. We had it on the sawmill for a little while during steam school 2 weeks ago. Did Emma get any video of it?
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So Craig,

When is Jonas or Jeff, building that new boiler for you??

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When is Jonas or Jeff, building that new boiler for you??
My boiler seem to be good. It may need to replace whole new flue sheet and whole firebox/fabricate door ring and a small section on a corner wet bottom. You know I love to take apart engine and boiler. The boiler I want to see is a corrosion. Hi Mark Jordan When I see something on boiler I'd take to boiler shop to rebuild or a new one.
Photo taken today below. Had removed lots of spider webs before taking picture. The engine stored inside with dusty sand/sawdust on a Amish farm. I have stored my engine on family farm since 1995. Two years ago my grandmother was deceased and then they told me to get out when farm was sold.
This Amish farm is not a good situation for me to restore the engine.
Hope fully my acreage land would be sold this coming week. Found a repo house with 3 acres. My own cemented floor pole barn would be much better.
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Last Saturday May 30th. I went to see his 24 hp Greyhound engine. I looked through the boiler except the top(crown sheet) hand hole unopened. Rear bunker has been made. Spur gears teeth are half inch thick. Traction gears are good. One right rear wheel has been welded together back in 1965. Wheel weld stays strong when braced with steels. I have tapped test boiler barrel. Wet bottom stays are thick. Has two extra features leverage for bottom door and cylinder drain. Has scale pile up. Ultrasonic thickness gauge are not yet inspected.
I have three photos to limit my digital memory.
35 MM camera battery went dead.
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