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Old 06-22-2019, 07:25:32 PM
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Old 06-22-2019, 10:39:41 PM
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Jfleury ií get hold of him and get it thanks !!
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Old 06-23-2019, 12:32:55 PM
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I keep looking at this engine and noticed that the eccentric on flywheel never hits lever when you turn it Over !
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I keep looking at this engine and noticed that the eccentric on flywheel never hits lever when you turn it Over !
Thatís the governor weight. It will fly outward and contact the detent lever when the engine gets up to speed.
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Old 06-23-2019, 02:18:04 PM
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Iím so ignorant when it comes to these engines !! Anyone have answers to my page of questions previous posts ?
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:04:42 PM
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Really would like to run this ! Before I get the book will be at least a week before I can get it !

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If I can please get answers to my ?ís I can try and start this engine !
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Old 06-24-2019, 01:11:39 AM
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Thought you might like to see all sides paid $350.00 !
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Still looking step by step instructions how to start this engine !
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I'm sorry, I thought I had posted earlier. It must have been a similar thread.
but if you go to Hercules engines.com there are reproduction manuals that you can read until you get the one for yours.
it should be close enough that you could run your engine with it.
but if you could take it to a show the guys would probably have it running in 15 minutes for you. Pretty soon you'll think they're pretty simple but I understand that when it's all new it's confusing. I really like the air cooled engines -good job!
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Still looking step by step instructions how to start this engine !
Ronny, I'm sure the manual will answer most if not all of your questions about starting the engine but before you actually start it for the first time PLEASE be sure you have a plan in mind on how to shut it down in an emergency. Options include pulling the spark plug lead, covering the air intake, shutting the fuel off, etc. Governors have been known to fail and I sure would hate to see that nice looking engine run wild and self destruct or injure someone.

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Old 06-27-2019, 11:09:22 PM
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Thank Larry Iím going to Waite for book I set for yesterday your right I want to do it right and not hurt me or anyone !,
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Well got Manuel from lee I’m more confused than before only tell how to run engine with buzz coil nothing about mine that has a mag and this engine has no spark so I have this engine and have had it two weeks now and still don’t have a clue as to what’s wrong as far as coil ! I’m sure it needs to be sent away friend of mine sent a coil away and it was 300 and this year a year later it doesn’t have any spark he’s not too happy !

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Here’s book I got no mention of running this engine with Wico coil just battery testing with buzz coil !
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Hereís book !
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The grease fitting with the ears is an Alemite fitting. They are not used anymore but a NAPA auto store may have a grease gun or adapter for it. If not, remove it. it should be on either a 1/8 or 1/4 inch IPS thread. You can purchase a grease cup from Lee Pederson or one of the other venders here on the Stak, or a zirc (modern) grease fitting to fit. There is no set level for oil in the crankcase, but you want enough for the con rod big end to contact the oil to sling it around. There may be 2 plugs in the block sump, one to drain and the higher (if there is one) that sets the upper level of the oil. Use SAE 30 oil

The lever under the mag sets the timing. On retard, the mag should trip right at TDC Compression. On advance, about 20 degrees advanced. Turn the lever to the rear (away from the head end of engine) and see where the mag trips in relation to the piston (advanced or at TDC). To start the engine you want the engine to fire retarded (at TDC). This will prevent kick back and possible injury if the engine fires backwards. Note which position makes the engine fire at TDC Compression.

You should do an inspection every time you go to start the engine. here is a check list. 1) set oiler to drip at 6 to 8 drips/minute, and oil any moving parts, including the valve stems. DO NOT oil the magneto with engine oil (little depression in the front cover near bottom of mag)! That takes 1 drop of 3 N 1 electric motor oil, and ONCE a year at that! If you over oil the mag, you will foul the points! 2) make sure the exhaust valve moves by hand. If it gets stuck, it can break the rocker. 3) Make sure the ignition timer is set to the retard position. 4) Make sure the governor is free and that when pulled toward the outside, it can latch onto the rocker and hold the exhaust valve open. Watch your fingers when you do this! 5) Open the mixer fuel adjuster to about 3/4 turn out from lightly seated (counter clockwise) 6) fill fuel tank. 7) if there is a shaft ectending out under the mixer, lift up on it until fuel flows out of the inlet. If gas does not flow, you have to manually choke the engine with your fingers and turn it over thru the intake stroke until fuel flows out to the intake. This is usually within one intake cycle to get fuel Turn the engine SLOWLY, it may start! 8) Carefully grasp the top of the flywheels and turn the engine over TDC compression. The engine should start within a turn or two. If you have a hand crank, turn the engine BACKWARDS unntil it comes up against compression, then use the crank to turn the engine over. BE CAREFUL if you use a crank! 9) turn the timing lever to the advanced position (toward the head I believe), once the engine starts. You will have to set the fuel mixture to make the engine hit at every TDC Compression, without double stroking (compressing twice before firing), and with out snoking black. Turn in or out about 1/8 th of a turn until you find that 'sweet spot' where it runs best. On some mixers there is a filed in mark on the knob. if there is one on your engine, note where it is located when your engine runs best. Each engine is unique to its fuel setting, and it WILL change as the engine uses fuel and the level in the tank changes.

The instructions are not set in stone. it will take time to learn the engines eccentricities. NEVER make an attempt to make an adjustment with the engine running, except for the timer and fuel. Moving parts are very unforgiving on these engines! If there is a kill button on your mag (a small brass button on the front cover), that can be used to stop the engine in an emergency. If there is no kill button, pulling the plug wire off the spark plug will work too, but is not good for the mag. Turning off the fuel is the beat way to stop your engine, that will prevent fuel from washing off the oil on the cylinder walls during coast down to a stop.

I hope I have answered al your questions, if you have more, please ask again.
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Old 07-06-2019, 08:08:35 PM
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Andrew thank you very very much for this post it’s so long that I just started to read it I’m so tired from work will have to study it when I get a minute ! Just what I need by the first few sentences !
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Could u give me some advice about a Clinton engine with the word " sample " on serial number plate, tryin to date it, just shot in the dark, thought I'd ask...thks..
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