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2 H.P. Fairbanks Morse H


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Old 12-09-2014, 12:56:11 PM
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Hello, I am new to this forum but have been in the engine game for awhile now, being as though I'm only 17 can't be as long of some of you. I was just wondering, I had purchased an 2 hp. FM model H of my grandfather for $100 and unloading a couple tons of coal. It is running and complete just without mag and intake valve cover. I was just wondering what the value of an engine like this is worth because I can barely find anything about them. Are they rare?
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Old 12-09-2014, 02:09:14 PM
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Think you did real well. I'll double your money and take it off your hands.
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Old 12-09-2014, 03:24:15 PM
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Default Re: 2 H.P. Fairbanks Morse H

I feel like I did also haha. I was just wondering if it is a less common piece and wanted a little more info about it.
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Old 12-09-2014, 03:35:29 PM
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Default Re: 2 H.P. Fairbanks Morse H

The 2hp H is not too common, you'll find 150+ Z models for every H. They are not going for all that much of late, surprising since they were a pretty advanced unit in their time and have a lot of bells and whistles. I believe they came hit and miss and throttle governed. I run my throttler on Kero and they are a nice piece. You should be able to find the mag with some looking (think it is a Sumpter) and the intake cover you can make. As far as value, I'd think it would go from $800 to twice that depending on originality, wear, and CBW's.
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Is it a hit and miss or throttle? The intake cover is not the same. Hit and miss has a fuel saver latch. The throttle is just a cover that could be easily turned out of a steel. Where is your mag located? Most H's were on top, some were in the crack guard. Some had no provision for a mag. The ones on top took the Sumter JR. Not sure if crank guard type used the same mag. The JR's are getting real spendy. They seem to have doubled in value in just the last year. Hope high prices bring a new batch out of the back sheds.
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Think you did real well. I'll double your money and take it off your hands.
I would not mind the 200 but I would not want to unload 4tons+ of coal. I think he earned that engine.

Welcome to the stak Fairbanks 67. You will enjoy it here. Bill K
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Thanks for all who have replied and welcomed me into your community. I can already tell I will enjoy and appreciate the help. It is a throttle governor and has no mag or mag gear at the moment. I am In the hopeful process of purchasing a sumter mag but am still in the need of a mag gear. Many people say there are like the model t uprights which I also have but I don't see a mag gear on that. Can anyone help me on that? Thanks much
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Welcome Aboard the Stak

I helped a friend find a mag for his FM-H several months ago.

Nice looking engines.

http://www.smokstak.com/forum/attach...8&d=1386194720

His was originally set up for battery & coil but he wanted a mag for it and had me bid on several of them on eBay before finally getting one for him. The mag alone cost nearly 3 times what you paid for your grandfathers engine (not counting the coal removal).

He also set his up to run on gas OR propane.

Real nice runner once we made a few adjustments on it.

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Forgot to mention. All H's run great on a battery and coil. I'm guessing that originally the mag was an option no mater how the engine was set up.
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I would not mind the 200 but I would not want to unload 4tons+ of coal. I think he earned that engine.

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Check the sponsors at the top of the page for your mag. gear. I know that there is at least 1 who has gears for type H.
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I was thinking of restoring it. Would it make a huge difference in value? Right now like i said it is all original to my knowledge but I am also a fan or restoration. Thanks for your help
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Can you post a pict.? Bob
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Default Re: 2 H.P. Fairbanks Morse H

Welcome to the stack. That's a nice engine you have. It is hard to tell from the photo but it looks like a nice original paint piece. You may want to reconsider restoring it; it's only original once. An unrestored original would be worth more than a restored one. Just my 2 cents but I think most others will agree. I am not really familiar with the H engines but if you need a mag and mounting bracket, get the bracket first. The mags are easier to find I think. Steve
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Thanks for the input! That's what I was thinking. It already has the base for the mag so the search continues for the mag and gear
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Default Re: 2 H.P. Fairbanks Morse H

leave it as is that looks like a nice original paint job on it
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Default Re: 2 H.P. Fairbanks Morse H

Nice looking engine, from Grandpa and with some stories no doubt. I too would leave it be and now you need to be on the hunt for something to belt up to it. Don't forget to take Grandpa to the engine shows and enjoy the time.

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Old 12-10-2014, 10:38:21 PM
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You can do what you want as it's your engine but I would definitely leave it original. It's a damn nice original engine! Good luck with it. They're great runners. Jason
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