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Union Pacific Running a 9000 Class Steam on the Train


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YhtAYraQc0

I always liked the UP 9000. It's just immense!

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This video came from a 16mm film and was said to be from a television show by the Union Pacific Railroad. Watch how they service this 9000 class steam locomotive and hook it up for the run West out of Council Bluffs, Iowa.
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Did any of those survive?
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Quote: "Today, this big engine is a static display at the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds in Pomona, CA, and is owned by The Southern California Chapter of the Railway and Locomotive Historical Society."

from a Web page. JFLingg
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NEAT! How many drivers does that thing have?? Tried counting, looked like 12??

Neat film, but the canned sound with the woefully out of time valve gear is cheesy.

If it's been at Pamona for a long time, I have seen it in person. Was probably paying more attention to 4014 at the time.

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Film sparked two things for me, It would be interesting to understand how a round house was developed, Turning those things around needed massive bearings. The other thing, Rail workers, comparing watches. I'm sure Railroad watches, are a story in them selves.
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The 4-12-2 9000's were the longest rigid frame wheel base steam locomotive to be used in the United States. They were used exclusively by Union Pacific to run on the prairies where sharper corners were not an issue.

The exhaust sound is different on the 9000's due to fact they were a 3 cylinder design with a cylinder mounted in the center between the conventional side cylinders. This center cylinder was of a shorter stroke and was mounted at a slight incline. These and other factors cause the uneven stack cadence.
It was Union Pacific's final attempt at single unit big power in the later 1920's. Tractive effort was 96,646 lbs.

Information here:
http://www.steamlocomotive.com/locob...A&wheel=4-12-2

and here:
http://www.steamlocomotive.com/locob...-2&railroad=up
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impressive
we visited the UP yard in Cheyenne a few years back .
i was born in the wrong time
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Another locomotive of interest is the 2-10-2 #5511. She has young valve gear and is the sole survivor of her type. It's been living in the Cheyenne roundhouse for many years now. Once it was used to help heat the roundhouse until the boiler cert expired. Her piston rods were cut by the UP to tow her into Cheyenne in the 60's I believe. Over the years her cab fittings have been offered to UP employees. 5511 would be a tough restoration nowadays.

Video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNwgum0b3UY

Picture from Donstrack https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRa...am/i-ggcn5XQ/A

Some history. http://www.steamlocomotive.com/places/cheyenne/

UPRR only allows one historic steam engine per museum collection or some such now. Hence they didn't want to trade 5511 for 4014 since the group also has the UP 9000. I think this was an opportunity missed. They could have got 5511 out of shop and a group who lost their bigboy would have had another interesting UP steam locomotive in it's place.

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Did any of those survive?
9000 herself is the only one. UP has already said that they are not interested in restoring it, as its route availability was a major hinderance during its revenue years and would only be worse in preservation. The 4-8-4 engines have a hard enough time navigating modern switchyards and curves because the diesels that run today are more flexible, running the 9000 you'd basically be confined to a straight back and forth with no switches or turns.

Besides, they're having fun with the Big Boy. And rumor has it the steam program is only allowed 2 engines running. Challenger 3985 is about to undergo the same major rebuild that the Big Boy got, but they won't be putting flues in or hydrotesting until 844 is due for its FRA 1472. The flue time starts ticking from the moment you flue and hydrotest a boiler. They can put everything else on the Challenger back to factory spec while the 4014 and 844 are out playing.
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About those curves in yards and, particularly, industry tracks, I recall the rule that only four axle locomotives were allowed on these. These were neat old EMDs of the '50's and '60's.

Those are all gone now, aside from a few converted into various experiments, so I asked my friend who still works there, what are they using to service those industries now? The six axle road locomotives. Really? What happened to the rule? They wind up going on the ground a lot. LOL!
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