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Old 06-30-2019, 03:18:59 PM
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My 14 year old granddaughter call me a hoarder I denied it she said I was an organized HOARDER I think she’s right I still can’t find what I need in my garage of treasures !! So I found this in scrap heap today what use are these rusted old files ?? Just put it in my lawn sale ?
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Old 06-30-2019, 03:23:17 PM
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Photo of what I have I forgot photo again !
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Old 06-30-2019, 04:15:38 PM
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Default Re: I am a HOARDER !!!

welcome to the club! most here are too, but will never admit it. I personally dont see the problem.

---------- Post added at 04:15:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:09:51 PM ----------

I would'nt get to concerned until the following happens.

1 you buy a schoolbus for storage and not a short one either!

2 you buy a semi trailer for more storage

3 you are holding onto that 1979 chevy van, hey it doubles off as storage and wouldnt take that much to put it back on the road.

4 your basement garage has reached full capacity and you find yourself working outside.

5 you find yourself making plans for a garrage thats bigger than the house.

then you might have a problem! Oh God thats ME!!!!
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Old 06-30-2019, 04:19:18 PM
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My daughter says my house is where all the old trucks go to die. If you were lucky enough to buy acreage then just put up another fence. Works for me..
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Old 06-30-2019, 05:02:20 PM
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In all seriousness a "Hoarder" saves EVERYTHING, paper of all kinds, packaging, literally trash. They cannot throw anything away, even the trash. It is a mental illness.

You, like most of us, are more than likely a "Collector". They are not even related. Sure, to the ignorant observer, they may confuse the two. But a collector enjoys having things of interest around. Old things, historic things, useful things. A collector is doing good by saving stuff for future generations. The more organized and better protected your collection is, the more good you're doing for yourself and future collectors.

So that has been my goal. To better organize my collections. And weed out any unwanted stuff.

There are sharpening services for files. I'm not sure what kind of condition they need to be in, but I understand you ship them dull files and they'll ship them back nice and sharp.

Keith
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Old 06-30-2019, 07:06:21 PM
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donate to an upstart blacksmith , and let them make a few knives out of them .
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Old 06-30-2019, 07:47:56 PM
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I'm a hoarder, too, Hate to discard something someone may need or I could fix up one day. Or is not made, anymore. On files, Some re-sharpen them by dipping them in acid. Not sure of the process.
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ronny p 148 just clean those bastards up and use them...js.
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Photo of what I have I forgot photo again !
OH, those will clean up real nice. I clean with a good file card, Knock the handles of, put in a phosphoric acid solution overnight, clean, rinse, dry and WD40 to prevent rust.

I use "metal conditioner" from body shop supplier. Inexpensive, Comes in 1 L plastic containers. I mix as directed into a long thin plastic container, like the ones for toilet brushes, drop my files in.
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Old 06-30-2019, 11:49:14 PM
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Phosphoric acid solution what is the amounts to use what is the solution amounts ?
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Old 07-01-2019, 12:28:55 AM
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That sounds like a good plan.

One thing I have discovered is that evidently WD40 ultimately promotes rust as it seems to nicely dissolve any oils already present, then evaporate away, leaving bare metal to rust. I rusted a lot of tools to learn that lol.

These days I just wipe stuff down with an oily rag...

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Use the phosphoric acid straight out of the container. Follow the instructions on the bottle. When I have used this on rusty steel I apply it (brush or used a squirty bottle) left it on overnight and rinsed it off the next day. But as for cleaning up thise flat bastards it will be a trial to see how long you need to leave it on.

I used hydrochloric acid to clean out rust from inside my fuel tank off a tractor. In that case I sealed the outlet and left it inside for an hour each side then drained and rinsed with a lot of water then left it in the full sun over a few days with the cap off. Cleaned it up nice.

Something I use here now instead of WD40 is a product named Lanox. Original brew was called Inox but they then added lanolin to it and it is the beast for freeing up threads and for protecting steel from rust. If the pressure pack can is not available buy some lanolin oil and add it to your WD40 and put it in a squirty bottle. I also use lanolin grease on some things and it too stops rust but it is a grease so attracts dirt and crap to sit on top. I put some under the tractor fuel tank about 6 years ago and now I have it off again to paint the tractor I had to scrape it off and then let the grit blaster do the rest. No more rust formed in that time.
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The old time way to sharpen a file was to pee in a mason jar until you got it full. Put the files in the jar for a few days then remove them and clean good. NO JOKE!!
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I've used part an old file that I ground to a certain shape for a lathe tool. Now that I think of it, it was a radius to use at the bottom end of a cannon barrel back in the 90's.
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The old time way to sharpen a file was to pee in a mason jar until you got it full. Put the files in the jar for a few days then remove them and clean good. NO JOKE!!
Uric acid.
Most any acid will clean. Bet that smells.
When I did not have metal conditioner, I used some acid from junked car battery(sulphuric), but found it too aggressive.
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My wife wanted to know what the yellow stuff was on window cill ??�� should I tell her ? I told her it was plant fertilizer got up n Next morning jar was empty I asked her what happens to the jar of fertilizer she said she used it on her plants !!!������
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"The old time way to sharpen a file was to pee in a mason jar until you got it full. Put the files in the jar for a few days then remove them and clean good. NO JOKE!! "

If you are a hoarder, you already have all kinds of containers full of urine already!
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Boggs Tools is a file sharpening service:
https://boggstool.com/

I don't see rust removal as a solution to making a worn out file work well again. If the sharp cutting edges are gone, they are gone.

IIRC, before sending a file in to be "sharpened", you should check for missing teeth.

WD40: I found the same problem with re-rusting.
LPS-3 for long term storage is my current favorite.

FWIW, some files are not tool steel all the way through, They just get a deep case hardening, maybe 25 thou deep. Those files wouldn't make good knives.

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My name is Jim and I’m a hoarder. I find it difficult to throw a away plastic bags, tubs, even sardine tins. My house is full of machines I don’t want to rust in the pole shed. For years I was ok with it but recently it has become slightly annoying. I’m considering moving things to the pole shed but am struggling with the idea. I’ve had a triumph bonneville tt120 engine sitting on my dining room table for 20 years. Is there something wrong with me? People give me an odd look when I tell them that. I always found it amusing.
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"Is there something wrong with me?"

No, no. What you describe is pretty typical for us on this board.
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