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Since their is alot of talk here on Stak about Avery steam engines and tractors aswell as Avery equipment and not much on the trucks i thought i would start a thread just for the trucks.Literature,Memorabilia,Pictures ect... .Anybody know how many of them have survived ? how long did Avery make them ? anybody here own one?
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Don't know anything about this one but look at the condition, may be wrong but it looks original.
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That photo is of the truck that was owned by the Van Horn Truck Museum in Mason City. It is now owned/located at the I-80 Truck Stop Museum. Yes, it was super original right down to its pin-striping, upholstery and the original wood plugs still in the cast wheels. I'll have to dig through a bunch of old photos from when I worked on the truck for Lloyd Van Horn and see if I have some detail pictures.
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Did Avery only make chain drive trucks?
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I thought I had extensive notes on these, but all I find is some random scribbling I can barely read now...
Mroz doesn't have much, but does state chain drive as late as 1917, then states "more modern by 1921", and pic of 1921 1Ton shows no evidence of chains...(produced 1910-23 per Mroz)
"Farm truck" model only to 1914??
Used Rutenbur engines earlier??...I need to re-do my notes...
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What other trucks have that Rutenbur engine in it? I have a truck with that engine jn it and was told it was an Indiana no marking. Is that possible?
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I thought I had extensive notes on these, but all I find is some random scribbling I can barely read now...
Mroz doesn't have much, but does state chain drive as late as 1917, then states "more modern by 1921", and pic of 1921 1Ton shows no evidence of chains...(produced 1910-23 per Mroz)
"Farm truck" model only to 1914??
Used Rutenbur engines earlier??...I need to re-do my notes...
Thanks Bud.I was going to ask about the engines also
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What other trucks have that Rutenbur engine in it? I have a truck with that engine jn it and was told it was an Indiana no marking. Is that possible?
https://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61072
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An Avery truck with the Rutenbur engine will be selling at the Schurman Iron Ranch Sale in September. The sale is conducted by sponsor Aumann Vintage Power. https://www.aumannvintagepower.com/p...details/45913/

There are a number of sales that close beginning September 16-22. The engine is complete and nice as is the rolling chassis. Some of the tin and a few other parts are missing but it will make a great project for some lucky bidder.

The sale preview is August 16 and 17 in Ridgefield, Wa.
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https://www.iowa80group.com/news/iow...ry-farm-truck/
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Someone has very kindly uploaded scans of a complete brochure for one of these here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/948547...57645305813310
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Someone has very kindly uploaded scans of a complete brochure for one of these here:

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That Ajax tractor sure shares a lot with the Wallis Bear.
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I recollect that Avery in post 2 selling to Van Horn at Earl Marhanka's auction in the mid '90s at Dowgaic Mi.
Van Horn also out-bid me on the Paige Commercial Car (a big truck) at $3500. It is rare and I really wanted it and I found out later that he shortened the nice long frame. It had an unusual engine and a Brown & Lipe drive line.
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(A) Has anyone tried looking up some of the early cars that used Rutenbers for the 43/4x5 used in some of the Averys?????
Assuming the engines in the 2 and 3 ton (A ans B) and some of the 5T were Rutenbers, they were offering that size to the trade in 1909 and 1913, so it may've been an off-the-shelf engine , or maybe just with a few tweaks for Avery...(I can't bring the brochure up to read it)...
Does anyone know of a list of early makes using Rutenbers online anywhere??
The 1Ton Avery "C" used a smaller 41/8 bore engine, and some of the 5T seem to've gone to a 51/4 bore, probably a Wisconsin "D", as someone in one of these numerous Avery truck threads mentioned their 5T had a Wisconsin...
(B) OP: your Paige Comm'l car had an unusual engine?? Mroz sez they went to Hinkley in 1921; was that what you meant??
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Here's an interesting point---Rutenber was advertising several 4s---4x4, 41/2x5, 43/4x5 (presumably ours) and 5x5 (i hadn't noticed before, two "square " engines; unusual...
I wonder if, like some contemporary industrial engines, they night've been drop-in fits for each other...
Some of the 1915 Crow-Elkharts used a Rutenber 41/4x5; there should be several of those around to see what the engine looks like...
There's also the Glide "G" Special, I think 07-09, with a Rutenber 43/4x5 36-45 HP as the years progress, and the 1910-13 "45" series, 45 HP with a 43/4x5 354 per classic car database...
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Bud; Yes it is a Hinkley engine in that Paige. I think Van Horn put a Wrecker on its frame. I, even put water in it to check out the radiator the morning of the auction. Maybe I should have bid more than I had. I know of one more a long way off. I have a 22 7 pass tour and a 28 4 door sedan 6-72 and son has a 29 4 door Graham Paige sedan. Dad had a 22 exactly like mine he sold for $5.00 in the depression. Mine was for sale in our company paper! I have Dad's manual, 8 day clock and miscellaneous and pictures. It has a Continental 8-A six 331 cu inch engine. That model held the World's stock car speed record in 1921 at Daytona and that stock racer went to Australia and in later years back to USA.
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Have to give up on Rutenber and get back to downsizing 60-65 years accumulations...
Some digging does indicate this 4 3/4x5 did get into a number of cars, although most or all probably low production models; didn't verify any trucks and never got to marine...will try to summarize findings and post later...
Still not exact proof as didn't attempt to find pix or compare limited specs mentioned, but seems unlikely Rutenber would've built two dissimiiar 4 3/4x5s...
Also seems possible Avery's use was towards the end of this engines production cycle..
Too many questions, too little time

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If it hasn't already been mentioned, I think some of the early Heider tractors used Rutenber engines.
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