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Old 06-02-2018, 01:27:24 AM
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Old 06-02-2018, 01:38:57 AM
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Wow, it sure looks that way. Long ago I heard that eBay was very good at detecting this sort of thing, and people had gone to prison for it. Sure doesn't look to be the case, at least not any more. Wow.
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Old 06-02-2018, 04:05:09 PM
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What I am not seeing is how many items did he actually win. Did he do a lot of buying or just bidding items up? If he did a lot of bidding and bought nothing, he should be reported.

I have made bids on items, several times in $2.00 increments, when trying to buy spark plugs. Several times this went on for a couple of days, until I got tired of the crap, and the price became unreasonable. Once or twice, OK, he lost. Multiple times - NFG.
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What I am not seeing is how many items did he actually win. Did he do a lot of buying or just bidding items up? If he did a lot of bidding and bought nothing, he should be reported.

I have made bids on items, several times in $2.00 increments, when trying to buy spark plugs. Several times this went on for a couple of days, until I got tired of the crap, and the price became unreasonable. Once or twice, OK, he lost. Multiple times - NFG.
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I believe the green ## are what he actually won, or is winning ??
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What I am not seeing is how many items did he actually win. Did he do a lot of buying or just bidding items up? If he did a lot of bidding and bought nothing, he should be reported.
When you bid on your own stuff, you have to win a few. Law of averages will say that.
Here is a link to that sellers bidding page. Every bid to the one seller.
I looked at the sellers other items this buyer has won or bid on.
They weren't cheap items if brought in a shop. They were also specialists items used by different specialists. One category is tools made for the fibre optic communications and the other hydraulics. The 2 just don't go together. Look at the categories of this person's bids. They're all over the shop.

https://offer.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISA...m=173319148262

Here is the sellers sold list. It's amasing how many times the same buyer pops up and how many really expensive (when sold it shops), specialists items get sold over and over.
https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/joajoanb...p2046732.m1684

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Old 06-02-2018, 08:24:31 PM
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Life is short and the list of crackpots out there cooking up schemes is limitless. If you stomp one out three more will replace him. If you suspect a seller of dubious dealing why not just avoid buying anything from him? That seems like the low-stress solution to me. And have no doubt, they will get theirs in the end.

A few months ago I drove out about a half hour away to go see a machine for sale at what seemed like an attractive price. I got there and liked what I saw so I told the seller I would go to the bank (1/2 mile away) and withdraw the cash from my account to pay for the thing. When I got back from the bank the price had suddenly jumped by more than $2000. I was mad and called every aspect of the seller's lineage into question but then I left. I could have made a fuss but what good would it have done? I would have been out more time and aggravation. Then a few weeks later I heard a news story, the seller, a local contractor, had been convicted of cheating his workers, many of whom were from other countries, out of pay, He was forced to pay restitution and to pay a stiff fine. And I didn't have to lift a finger.

Let it go.
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703 bids on only 38 items!!
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Is it possible that the bidder set a fairly high initial bids on items wanted and the automatic bid bid it up incrementally as others put in bids?

I know the bid history looks something like that on some govt actions I have bid on.

Example: I see a truck I'd pay $2,000 for, bid that and starting bid is set at $100, and all the bids put in after are countered by the auto bid, so it looks like I was bidding it up, until the $2K is reached, when I either get the truck or someone who thinks it is worth more to them gets it.
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703 bids on only 38 items!!
Yeah, not bad when you consider the seller only has about that number of items for sale.

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Is it possible that the bidder set a fairly high initial bids on items wanted and the automatic bid bid it up incrementally as others put in bids?

I know the bid history looks something like that on some govt actions I have bid on.

Example: I see a truck I'd pay $2,000 for, bid that and starting bid is set at $100, and all the bids put in after are countered by the auto bid, so it looks like I was bidding it up, until the $2K is reached, when I either get the truck or someone who thinks it is worth more to them gets it.
It does not seem so. Look at this item that seller has at the moment. One bidder in $1 and $2 and the other bids in $100. You have the option of showing or hiding the auto bid bids
https://www.ebay.com.au/bfl/viewbids...p2047675.l2565
When you click on the 2 bidders and see one has 100% bidding with this seller and the other has 24% bidding with this seller, things seem dodgy.
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