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Old 06-18-2018, 02:28:59 PM
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hello all

this is a basic drawing of a side level steam engine 1840s used in the first naval steam powered war ship USS MISSISSIPPI

because the drawing is very simple it lacks all the "working" details of how such an engine works.

does anyone know if such an engine survives in a museum or know of any drawings of such an engine?

these were designed in England and became the standard marine engine so there must be working drawings someplace.
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Old 06-19-2018, 12:24:44 AM
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Maybe I'm blind to something but it seems to me that it's almost identical to a normal walking beam engine, just with the beam located to the sides rather than the top. Looks pretty neat anyways!
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Old 06-19-2018, 06:57:41 AM
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That "cathedral" frame looks an awful lot like the Novelty Iron Works engine at HFM. They did build naval engines and built parts of the "Monitor", although the Monitor's engines were built by another. There were a lot of designs like these trying to keep the center of gravity low for use on ships. There is a list of all the engines the Novelty Iron Works built on line, I can't remember where I've seen it. - JM
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There are a few side lever engines preserved. There's a late-model one in the tug Eppleton Hall, preserved in San Francisco. This has a grasshopper side lever engine, though:-

http://www.tynetugs.co.uk/eppletonhall-engines.html


There are at least two smallish single cylinder examples preserved on land in the UK.

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Here are some photos of a beautiful model in Liverpool Maritime Museum. It represents the engine of the paddle steamer Berenice built in 1836 by Robert Napier.
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I have about 60 drawings for a steam engine I would like to post. The reason for posting the drawings is to see if there is enough information to build a scale model. This is looking like a jig saw puzzle of pieces and parts so I need to identify the drawings and where the parts go. I have never seen a complete steam engine like this so to figure this out will require someone who knows steam engines, Because there are so many drawings and I can only post 4 at a time this will take a lot of posts for all the drawings.
The drawings are images of the originals so in some cases they may be difficult to read
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Old 07-28-2018, 10:42:19 AM
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the next 4 drawings
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drawings 9 to 12
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oops 9 to 12
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drawings 13 to 16
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drawings 17 to 21
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drawings 22 to 25
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drawings 26 to 29
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there is about 44 more drawings of the engine to go
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this is the bed plate for the engine I posted in the first post

can anyone tell me what the blue area is and does it go under the entire bed or just down the center
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I can see what the red part is and where it bolts to the bed plate

I do not know if the rings are raised above the plate surface or set into the surface

what is the blue part and where does it go
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Thanks for posting these drawings. Wonderful details. I think it would make a great model. Do you have any more info on this engine?
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Thanks for posting these drawings. Wonderful details. I think it would make a great model. Do you have any more info on this engine?
all I have are the drawings and that what's makes this difficult not knowing what it looks like assembled

the engine was used in the first naval steam frigate Mississippi 1840s
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best approach to modeling this engine is starting with the basics and learn what the parts are. Once I got that figured out then understand what the parts do then I can figure out how they are built.

so starting with the basic

I need a cylinder and a condenser I don't know what "E" is
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ok a cylinder is the main steam drive so those rings on the bed plate have to seal the cylinder or you will be blowing steam out under pressure
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looking at the plan for the cylinder the 4 bolts look like a match to the bed plate
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