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1931 Dodge and Early 1920s GMC Truck


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Old 01-07-2019, 12:02:27 AM
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With help I discovered and purchased two antique trucks, today.
The 95-ish year old GMC is missing a lot, but it is amazing! Just the cast-iron wheels with hard rubber tires were worth saving. Appears to originally have had a wooden c-cab mounted like in the picture.
The other truck appears to be a 1931 Dodge. Probably the biggest version of Dodge available that year. It had demountable steel dually rims clamped to heavy cast spokes like 1930s IHCs do. Iíve never seen that on any Dodge truck.
This 1931 Dodge, like so many other early trucks, had considerable wood in the cab as reinforcement for the tin shell. It also had a fabric roof.
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:42:33 PM
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I spent some time researching the GMC and have concluded itís from the late teens. Like 1918. I had no idea that GMC had so many truck models and so many cab configurations.
This particular version appears to be a smaller C cab version of the heavier duty line. Check out the windshield frame and running boards and brackets. Such cool castings, everywhere!
Iíve also posted pictures of 1931 Dodge trucks.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:22:04 AM
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hopefully they will be salvaged,,,,
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:29:12 AM
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some pretty ambitious projects there.
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:59:11 AM
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The GMC is rare but I suspect thereís another within a few hour drive. Thereís so much old Ag-related stuff, here.
The cab has to be built no matter what.
The GMC radiator and hood search begins!
The 1931 has been modified too much. It will most likely end up as a 1931 Dodge Pickup. I believe I have the correct bed and rear fendersZ
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Very interesting projects,please keep us updated.
My Model T's started out much worse than anything in your pictures and I am driveing 2 of the 3 and #3 will be finished in the coming years.
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Do you know what sort of locomotion the GMC had? Buick maybe or ?
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Hi, Oldtech!
I have no experience with vehicles of this vintage. I know that slightly newer GMC trucks used Buick engines because Tad Burness (in his Truck and Bus Spotterís Guide) told me so. Iíve seen exactly one 1930 GMC truck with a Buick motor.
Iím very excited about this old GMC. Iím going to build my own C-cab and source radiator and hood.
Iím much less optimistic about finding the correct engine, transmission and driveshaft.
Itís also missing steering column and box.
Itís pretty cool living in an area (Central California) that still contains these old trucks. Iíll find another old GMC.
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Here are some internet pics of 1918-era GMC trucks. Some seem to be the same model as mine. The giveaways are the front of the front springs and frame, the shape and depth of the cowl. The same years GMC 5-ton had really beefy front frame horns. Mine is not a 5-ton. Itís much smaller.
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Time for me to revisit types of front axle designs. This 1918 GMC has a ďElliotĒ style spindle and axle. Iím much more used to ďreverse ElliotĒ.
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We built a GMC like this about 5 yrs ago and have a lot of pictures and info. This was built before they used Buick and Pontiac engines. Ours has a big tag on the block that says
" Built for GMC by Continental ". It's a headless iron block with a heavy cast aluminum pan and a splash oil system. If you want to email me I'll send you some info.
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Yes, please!
I know next to nothing about them.
Thanks!
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That is interesting that they used a Continental. Big trucks were pretty few back then so I guess even GM brought in Engines. I am restoring a 1917 McLaughlin Buick and am pretty familliar with Buicks from 1916 up, and GMC Trucks in the later 20's There is an Ambulance or bus circa 1918 at the Reynolds museum in Alberta that has a BIG 4 cylinder overhead valve engine that looks Buick-ish but is a Mystery to me. Something new every day you know!
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Cool GMC logo on the spoke of the wheel !
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The gentleman that sold me the GMC has yet another GMC front axle from same era but different truck. Among other things in Ag Central old chassis were made into cotton trailers! And are still around..
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Anyone have any idea what color a 1918 GMC truck chassis should be?
I hate to slop on black POR15 paint and be wrong, wrong, wrong (again).
I see similar GMC trucks with chassis painted cab color. Is that correct? And what were offered body paint colors?
Thanks, Don
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1918 GMC coming home.
The tow truck driver wanted to be sure I really wanted this wreck. Hilarious!
I really like the potential of this one. I get to build a C Cab.
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More pics.
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Scraping 101 years of crap off. Looks like old black paint on chassis, fenders. Maybe green on the body. My best guess.
John and Mike Boyajian say that these cabs were often made of Poplar Wood. I googled Poplar and you can readily buy 3/4” Poplar online.
I suspect I will build the first cab out of plywood since that’s so easy to obtain and cut.
Wheels are another matter. Wheels and chassis tend to be the same colors if you look at period pictures.
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Hereís an especially pretty one.
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