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Old 03-18-2019, 10:59:25 AM
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Hopefully somebody can tell me about this Wallis tractor a friend bought, I went to look at it yesterday and im not sure at all on the year or serial number location. The plate at the left front is gone, one screw broken off some time ago and the other screw there with a shard of the tag behind it.
It has the place on the belt pulley shaft for the starter arm and the starter arm with it. It also has a square shaft sticking out of the front but I think that turns constantly? It almost looks to me like someone put later fenders on it as the operators' station has sheet metal going forward to the fuel tank. It has a Zenith cast iron carb and the manifold pictured.
The owner is the original owners' grandson and he has a letter from the company dated 1921 and a model K manual. He cant really remember the tractor being used as his grandfather gave it to him 60 years ago when he was 5, he doesn't think it has been running since but his father painted it and worked on it some years ago.
Sorry again about the picture quality, I got a new camera and im still having troubles.
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Nice looking Wallis! It seems to be a K made from 1918-23. This one is an earlier one with the non removable timing cover on the engine. They would be started on the belt pulley shaft with a bar about 3’ long. The engine number will be stamped into the engine block on the right side just above the gear driving the magneto. For some odd reason if you take the engine number and add 471 you get the serial number. It will be somewhere between 14001-16300 or so. The square shaft on the front is part of the original steering setup. The original steering gears would be located in the front box. It appears to have be updated quite a bit. The steering is 20-30, the back wheels are the newer three rivet style, front wheels are newer ones with timken bearings, an OK manifold / air cleaner, the fenders are original K style fenders but maybe added later.
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I agree with Tom, except I think the 3 rivet back wheels could well be the original. Some pics of the seatmount and Transmission would be good too.
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Brought the tractor home Saturday, some more pictures. Assesment says we may need to replace the magneto drive bushing, one valve stuck and the clutch needs adjusted. We will see as the days go by. The carburetor is in very bad shape, included is a later model Zenith, and an E4A IH magneto. May just try a splitdorf on it.
Cant read the last two didgets of the serial number well at all but the first three are good and visible. I think 14266 or 14200.
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Can anyone tell me about a repair manual? I see one for a Wallis 20, it says 12-20 on the cover, would that work for this earlier K?
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2 stuck valves and removed a bent pushrod. Interesting valve train with the steel ball pivot at the top. What is the tin plate covering on the manifold in the picture?
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The tin cover was usually a wire screen. The OK manifold on this tractor has been updated a little bit to have a periscope air intake. Usually they would have a heat damper in place of the cast elbow at the back of the manifold. Then you could select if you wanted to pull cooler air in the back opening right into the air cleaner or close that damper and pull air through the top chamber of the exhaust manifold heating it up for kerosine use.

Also interesting to note this tractor has been updated to have a newer style head and rocker arm mounting. That would have been installed around 27-28 or later.
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I sure appreciate the information, as usual there is always someone here that knows. What are the valve clearances?
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The operators manual says something like .040” which I think is very loose. I’ve been setting them at a more standard clearance like .015” and never had trouble with them getting tight when warm
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I finally noticed a problem with our carburetor choice last night, the fuel tank would have had to have a lot of gas in it to get to the carb at all. Depending on options I was thinking about building a spacer to bolt in between the manifold and carb, we could use a late model Zenith then, would in no way be correct or even close but
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Yes, the original fix is a spacer pipe possibly with the butterfly in it, then the carb below that. My J has a spacer but the butterfly in the carb.

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I'm surprised to see you still have snow, it was 31c here yesterday.
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Remember. We're farther North.. Actually that pic is a few years old
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I planned on building an 1 1/2" spacer and ended up with a 2" spacer that was easier to weld and should work well on fuel levels with the tank. Had to build an air cleaner connection to the carb as well, flipped the throttle shaft lever down on the shaft to make the throttle work in the correct direction. It looks to me like you have to turn the intake elbow right side up and upside down to change form hot to cold manifold, is that right? Also finally got the exhaust elbow welded and installed.
Looking over some magnetos right now, have a choice between the E4A International that came with it or a pot metal covered Splitdorf.
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Yes, the original fix is a spacer pipe possibly with the butterfly in it, then the carb below that. My J has a spacer but the butterfly in the carb.

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I planned on building an 1 1/2" spacer and ended up with a 2" spacer that was easier to weld and should work well on fuel levels with the tank. Had to build an air cleaner connection to the carb as well, flipped the throttle shaft lever down on the shaft to make the throttle work in the correct direction. It looks to me like you have to turn the intake elbow right side up and upside down to change form hot to cold manifold, is that right? Also finally got the exhaust elbow welded and installed.
Looking over some magnetos right now, have a choice between the E4A International that came with it or a pot metal covered Splitdorf.
Originally that intake elbow was not installed on tractors. There should be just a round damper there for it to function as intended. The elbow was an option later to install a periscope air stack
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What are you guys using for a drive coupling to the magneto? I just have modern rad hose but it almost seems too flexible. The old rad hose was a lot stiffer. Thanx.
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Hey Rick, that’s what I am using and it seems to work really good. Sometimes you have to watch out that the magneto doesn’t sit crooked and try to bend the hose coupler. I’ve had that happen and the impulse won’t be very sharp
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The ol Wallis ran and drove around yesterday, first time in at least 65 years. Some water leaks yet to address.
To other Wallis owners, what is your starting procedure? I have not been able to start it on the crank yet, just belt started several times. Didn't prime yet, mag seems pretty good and compression is improving.
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I prime ours a bit through the petcocks on the intake and it starts goog with the crank. Have to remember to push that little button down first on the impulse housing.
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