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Old 11-14-2007, 09:41:23 AM
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Wher are all the pictures of P & O plows?

Does anyone know if a Case steam lift plow has survived and still in use anywhere?
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:49:06 AM
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Wayne,
This is a Cockshutt that used to be at Belgrade, Montana, shown being pulled by the 20hp Avery. I'd say your picture shows a Cockshutt. Like G said, they were a pretty popular plow.



I also posted another Canadian built plow, the Verity. I know it is repetitous to most, but this Verity had parallelogram beams. When a beam lifted, while plowing, it never went up raidially, the beam stayed parallel or horizontal to the surface.
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were was this plow found ??? and is it for sale ?
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My thoughts exactly Ben .

On another note. The earlier post showing hooking several plows together to make one larger plow has me thinking. What with the scarsity and expense of the larger gang-plows, this would be handy to do with a couple (several) mechanical lift plows. There's lots of those around. Would anyone have a diagram of a hitch to do this, or drawings from one of those early "squadron" hitches JD, Allis and others developed for this purpose?
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This is two Emerson plows being pulled with a hitch that is somewhat visible behind the 20hp Avery son Mike is engineering at Belgrade years ago.



This is the E-B plows unhooked.



This is the picture you are REALLY looking for, I think! A Minneapolis pulling a variety of horse drawn plows.



Or how would you like to "hang onto" this plow, behind this Minneapolis return flue?
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These are horse plows behind this Nichols & Shepard.



This is two walking plows and Reeves engine.



This is another of horse plows behind the Doukhoubors Reeves again for G.



This is the Routledge 40hp Reeves engine plowing.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:55:26 PM
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Wher are all the pictures of P & O plows?

Does anyone know if a Case steam lift plow has survived and still in use anywhere?
Chuck
Chuck,
This is the best I could come up with for a Parlin & Orendoerff plow. It IS one, but likely not what you were looking for.
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Somewhere I have ads showing the P&O engine gangs. They were sold with the big IHC tractors.
In the meantime, here are a couple of 1913 ads. The JD plow is being pulled by a big compound Sawyer-Massey. I won't hazard a guess as to hp of the engine but will leave that up to the Sawyer-Master, Timmy S. He knows this stuff like Mr. Colgate knows tooth-paste!
The other is a Moline plow. So!??! All you Big Dutchman plow fans and experts? Here is the big chance you have been waiting for to impress all us Stakkers with your knowledge!
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Here is a P&O ad from 1913. Not steam, but that would be a nice rig to have sitting in the yard just the same!
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Kory,

Doesn't your family have the complete line-up of the JD gang plows...4 bottom on up to the 14 bottom plow? How about some of those photos of plowing in the Andover area. I believe you have a photo of a mighty Nick pulling a P&O plow!

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Here is a P&O ad from 1913. Not steam, but that would be a nice rig to have sitting in the yard just the same!
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Onkel G,
That picture was obviously taken after IHC bought P&O and after they had the three big Mogul tractors pulling the (?) 50 (?) bottom Oliver plow.

I remember from working in the IHC parts department in Lewistown how all IHC plow's part numbers started with "PO-----"
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:37:04 PM
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These engines plowing on the Noble farm, near Nobleford, Saskatchewan never cease to amaze me. The engines and plows in the second picture are the same ones pictured in the first picture.





As Colin always says, they put the Averys in a field by themselves, as their speed was quite slow in low gear.
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:11:29 PM
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This first picture of a Z-? Peerless pulling a Geiser steam lift plow has been out there forever, but I always think that "could have been" Austin Monk sitting on the deck. I have the postcard.



This second picture is one of William Jurney's 40hp CS up in Vulcan, Alberta and is courtesy of friend Kevin Small and Arlo Jurney.



This third picture is of Herman Otten's 32 cc CS #7181 plowing near Lewistown, Montana. He bought this engine new in 1913 for $3200 or a hundred dollars a horsepower, and bought it from his brother inlaw, Ben Hollenback, a Reeves agent.



Since uncle Frank, Dad's brother, was also a brother inlaw of Otten and Hollenback, the Yaeger Brothers borrowed 32 Reeves #7181 in 1930 when their own 32 cc CS was down for repairs.
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MR 20 reeves highwheeler would you have any information where the 40-140 reeves are plowing at in Oklahoma that kersons brothers had ? also i have a reeves catalog and it has a short story from P.E. RAY from Big Springs, Nebraska who had a 40-140 would you have any pictures of that engine ? your picture collection is totally amazing thank you for sharing them with us!!!!
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Here are a couple more of P&O - Parlin and Orendorff Co., Canton, Illinois, as sold by IHC.
This is from 1909. Is that engine a Port Huron or Robert Bell? That cab would be cozy on a cool fall day.
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Two photos of the Cwach Gaar-Scott and P&O plow. Fireman Emil Cwach, steering Frank Cwach, My gandfather John Cwach on the plow. The smaller man on the plow in the one photo was a hired man Western Root.
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MR 20 reeves highwheeler would you have any information where the 40-140 reeves are plowing at in Oklahoma that kersons brothers had ? also i have a reeves catalog and it has a short story from P.E. RAY from Big Springs, Nebraska who had a 40-140 would you have any pictures of that engine ? your picture collection is totally amazing thank you for sharing them with us!!!!
ARU,
Any information I had about the Kersons brothers came from Ed Smolik and unfortunately, that vast wealth of knowledge is no longer with us... No I don't know. I remember the Reeves catalog testimonial of P.E. Ray's but I'm quite sure I don't have pictures of his outfit, but since I have around 50 old pictures of the 40 Reeves in my CD pile, it may well be one of my unidentified photos? I'm sorry to not be more help. I have located 15 or 16 that were once located in Montana, however. Considering they built 50 and possibly an additional trial engine, that's a pretty good percentage for the home team.
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The good people at M Rumely Co seemed to know a little about making engines and plows too! The one shot is from an ol' post card and they are hauling 28 disc plows and harrows turning 20 feet. I think this is in the Moose Jaw, SK area? From Moose Jaw over through Weyburn is the true Canadian Prairie. Land and sky a far as you can see. It seems like you can see the lights of Weyburn from about 50 miles on a clear fall night. Great country - wish I coulda bin there when pictures like this were being taken! Really, it wouldn't bother me at all to be there now!
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I spoke with Kory today, and all though he wanted to help me out with the photos of the mighty Nick struttin her stuff down the field in Andover, South Dak. back in 2000, the last year she ran. He didn't have any of the desired photos on his PC...but his dad did. Kevin just sent them to me so that I could share them with all of you.

Sadly, after pulling the eight bottom JD plow, the boiler let us know that she was tired. We found later that the boiler plate in the firebox was thin to a point where she was peeing water onto the fire right around the door ring. After many UT's, it was determined that a whole new firebox would be more beneficial than replacing major sections. Also, since the alkali is real high in the Dakota's...the 1/2" thick boiler was seriously pitted and corroded. I have since found a replacement boiler with good boiler plate....but I'm planning a new firebox for her also, since it shows some signs of needs of repairs, and if a fella is going to swap boilers...it might as well be a sound boiler! Once a new firebox is placed in the heavy 1/2" butt-strap Broderick boiler....well even Nicholas won't be back into in his life-time!

Anyway, I have gotten side tracked. In the first photo is the Nick pulling the Anderson's 8 bottom plow. Now the ol' girl could have easily pulled the 10 bottom...but the twelve might be a challenge...not due to a lack of power...just holding her footing to the ground. Anyway, in the photo is my good friend and mentor...Gramps, running the injector, as the Nick is a wee bit of a thirsty engine. Steering is my good friend Mark Smith...and somewhere below is myself firing that large firebox!

In the second photo is the line-up that year. Apparently Nichols&Shepard's and Avery's have something in common...there suppose to be in a field by themselves. I recall Kevin Anderson coming up to me and asking if I could get a few more rpm's out of the ol' girl, as the Case engines were right on my heels. There wasn't much we could do. Also, if your eyes are real good, you can just barely make out my nephew, who is sitting on the steer-man's water tank, Mark Smith (steering) and myself running the controls. Beside me and out of view at this angle, is Gramps...still maning the injectors. It is a good thing that this ol' Betsy has the water tanks from a 30 or 35hp Nick on her, as she really likes her water!

Thanks again to Kevin Anderson for forwarding these photos to me so I could share them with all of you.

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Onkel G,
I'm trying to clean up (out?) my old pictures so I can start posting some more newer plowing pictures. This was a good idea to get the plowing pictures here on one thread. Have you considered starting a (steam engine and) threshing machine thread? I can come up with a few of them too.

This first picture is of the Kolar Brother's 32 Reeves ds CS #6813 plowing just over a mile from the farm I grew up on.



These next two pictures are of the Tyler's 32 Reeves cc US #7888 taken in 1938, the last year the Reeves engines were used for plowing in the Judith Basin, due to heavy rains in 1939. Charlie and Earl are shown on the engine. Max took the picture and was water boy.





This is the last picture I have of Dad and his brothers plowing, again with 32 cc Cs #7181. All of these engines are pulling Emerson disk plows. My late cousin Harold is shown walking out to the engine to visit his dad. He would have been 81 this year. Thank goodness, Harold's mother took the pictures.
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