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Witte Restoration - 1912 8 HP Headless


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Old 02-12-2012, 07:02:46 PM
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The guide liner what then honed to size in the pin fitting machine. Then the seats were ground.
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Here is a picture of the new exhaust valve that was made. The tip of the valve was cut back down to the original size in order to use the orginal valve keeper parts.

I forgot to mention earlier that the surface of the valve cage that bolts to the block was resurfaced as well.
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Now are some pictures of the assembly. The rod and crank ligned up nicely so that gave us some assurance we poured the bearing in the right spot

We made new larger gib keys so they would stick out a little further than the old ones and not get into the bearings.
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The governor weights and brackets weren't hardly worn so I simply made new pins out of drill rod.
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Although not everything is done, we were at a point where we were able to start the engine for the first time. It ran well considering we didn't have the gas tank hooked up and were pouring gas in with a priming can. There was no blow by and it had very good compression.

There are still about a half a dozen things to finish and then I will take a video of the running product.
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That's a nice looking engine. I had a 6 hp headless in the 9000 serial number range and it was the physical size of a later 4 hp.
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Very good info in your restoration project and thanks very much for sharing.

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Thanks for posting all of the pictures.
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Got some time to work on the Witte some more this weekend.
- Fixed most of the leaks in the gas tank.
- Replaced some of the fuel piping that was in poor shape.
- We discovered that when the intake valve cage is screwed in it distorts the valve seat just enough that it won't seal perfectly so we lapped in the valve and it seats great now.
- Got the pulley put on
- Wired the ignition.
- Few other misc things that I can't remember right now

Lastly we decided to make a new offset shaft for the camshaft gear. We discovered that the cam gear was binding in a few places and was just too tight. The first offset wasn't enough so we ended up making another shaft. I told my wife I needed to buy another engine so that I had a use for the extra parts. She didn't laugh at my joke.
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And here is a video of the engine. I would like to find a little weaker governor springs to slow it down just a little. Right now it is running at 200 RPM before it will fire.



It is always nice to finish a project and get started on the next one. I think the next on is going to be a lot more work however...
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Hello,
Great job on the restoration and the photos. I just bought a non-running 1912 Witte 8 HP and I am going to be doing the same thing. I dont have all the metal working tools though. I may be reaching out to you for advice if you don't mind. Thank you.
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Mike, i don't know why you didn't charge those original batterys & use them. Nice visiting with you at Rolag. skip
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