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Old 11-17-2014, 05:18:13 PM
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Must be a REO - its running backwards!

My sons shop just bought 6 huskvarna snow blowers, with chinese engines on them. My son told the boss, 1 in 4 won't last the season. Well, he's half way there! In setting up the blowers, he found one engine missing the oil dipstick and mounting screw, although the cap was installed on the engine. Now the question - is the stick and screw inside the engine? probing the dipstick tube did not find the dipstick. There is enough room for it to get into the case!
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Must be a REO - its running backwards!

My sons shop just bought 6 huskvarna snow blowers, with chinese engines on them. My son told the boss, 1 in 4 won't last the season. Well, he's half way there! In setting up the blowers, he found one engine missing the oil dipstick and mounting screw, although the cap was installed on the engine. Now the question - is the stick and screw inside the engine? probing the dipstick tube did not find the dipstick. There is enough room for it to get into the case!
Yeeah - screw probably fell out and stick dropped. Left inside, may eventually wrap around crank. Then -
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Old 11-17-2014, 09:12:15 PM
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Must be a REO - its running backwards!

My sons shop just bought 6 huskvarna snow blowers, with chinese engines on them. My son told the boss, 1 in 4 won't last the season.
Chinee on Husky yet...who makes Husky SB's now anyway..?? guessing MTD or Murrey like everything else except maybe Honda...
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Old 11-17-2014, 10:31:46 PM
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Not quite.

Husqvarna is a subsidiary of EHP. Electrolux Home Products.

Murray is owned by Briggs, and for practical intents and purposes is dead...although there is still Murray branded product out there, a lot of it is now a hybrid between Murray and Snapper.....also owned by Briggs.

When Tecumseh went belly up in 08', it left a void in the snowblower engine market...their line of snow king engines dominated this arena for many years.
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Old 11-18-2014, 12:35:45 AM
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am I the only one who thinks the small engine icon at top of the page looks like it's intaking through the muffler and exhausting out the carb..???
Gotta agree with you on that.
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Maybe the pic just got reversed... More likely a joke to see who would notice.

A very interesting thread, this. Looks to be more a forum for China bashing than any real discusion of Chinese clone engines.
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Old 11-18-2014, 04:45:53 AM
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well, Honda has most parts are made in China. I doesn't problem with it.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:53:54 AM
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whats wrong with china bashing ????

cheep crap imported with a designed in failure factor
most of the technology stolen from others without regard to patents or copy write laws.
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Some of the Chinese engines are pretty reliable. LCT builds the Lauson engine, and I've not seen many issues there.
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True Honda does have lots of stuff made in China but to their specs, big diff. The LCT engines Ive seen on Ariens snow blowers look nothing like the old Tecumsehs and look totally Asian in design. I was under the impression the Tecumseh engines no longer met emissions requirements.
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True Honda does have lots of stuff made in China but to their specs, big diff. The LCT engines Ive seen on Ariens snow blowers look nothing like the old Tecumsehs and look totally Asian in design. I was under the impression the Tecumseh engines no longer met emissions requirements.
Tecumseh is out of business. Their assets were sold off, and a new conglomerate was formed with the intent of manufacturing engines. Trouble is, the Tecumseh name didn't go with the engine deal. So, they went back in time and resurrected the Lauson brand.

They new Lausons look Asian because they are. LCT builds them.

You can read about it here: http://www.certifiedpartscorp.com/CPC_PR_083110.pdf
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Tecumseh was bought out by Briggs, wasn't it?
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Tecumseh was bought out by Briggs, wasn't it?

No, Tecumseh was not bought out by Briggs & Stratton, unfortunately the company that manufactured the Tecumseh engine line (Lauson) folded.
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Tecumseh was bought out by Briggs, wasn't it?
No. CPC who then licensed to LTC, at least that's how I read it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecumseh_Products
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:19:32 AM
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I was under the impression the Tecumseh engines no longer met emissions requirements.
That's the story I heard. The family didn't want to or couldn't pony up the bucks to update the products so they shut down new engine production. They'll continue to make service parts until the demand dwindles.
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From what I read and hear on talk radio it's not all junk. After Bill Clinton gave them our ICBM, intercontinental balistic missile, the Panama Canal, and who knows who's idea of the selling of steel and coal fields of Pa., they build great nuclear subs located in the Panama Canal, armed with our missiles pointed at us. They even shot down a satelite in space with one of our clones, no the only junk they make is what they sell Americans.
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Where to start...
Hmmm...just about every Briggs sno engine is made in or has parts made in China.
Same with the small Kohlers.
Tecumseh rode the horse forever and never spent the money on R@D. Neither did the others really.
They bled us dry for years and many people are fed up with poor service from small engines and the equipment they come on.
I have been Briggs MST for 15 years and hate them so much I threw my certificates under my toolbox.
They may have good service in the US but here in Canada I have been waiting since April for a phone call or email to be returned...and I try to contact them at least once a month.
As far as the Chinese clones...we sell the Lifan/Ducar stuff. I was against it first but after a few years we realized we have less trouble with them and parts are cheaper than the others. Parts are no problem for us with the Lifan.
The LCT engines on the Husky blowers seem to be okay so far but are going to take longer to do any service to. A tecumseh snow engine was as easy as possible to clean a carb on.
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Honda's are very good engines but many of them are made in China too. None of them will die fair play, no oil and crappy gas ,poor maintenence will kill the beat of them.
I will get off the soap box now.
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Where to start...
Hmmm...just about every Briggs sno engine is made in or has parts made in China.
Same with the small Kohlers.

Regards Chris
Just happened to notice your UID is "Snow SHOVELER"...I feel your pain...
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Hi OTR...
The snowshoveler nic name started about 15 years ago. I hate shoveling snow.
I started out with a tired craftsman (murray) snowblower and gradually worked up to tractors, then a skid loader and now just in case an event like Buffalo is expierencing should arrive I have a D6 cat dozer.
Regards Chris...
PS no snow yet, just a flurry
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