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the early 4th of July engine find..help identify engine.


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Old 07-01-2014, 09:41:49 PM
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i got a call today from an older gent not too far from me who was looking to get rid of some old iron that he said his children didnt want anything to do with. he was talking about selling 1 engine on the phone and when i got there,he said he was selling the 2 he owned..we struck a deal and i got them loaded. the 1st engine i dont see a tag on it and would like to know what i really got here. on the one side of the hopper is a serial number #706. i can see some old red paint so hopefully that can help out identifing the make and year? I also picked up another engine which is a witte 2hp? i would like to know possibly what year this is from also? the ser# is 18886 any help would be appriciated!
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Looks like a nelson bros.
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I'll say its a GRAY.
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Default Re: the early 4th of July engine find..help identify engine.

Witte is 1915.

The Nelson Bros. engine could have been tagged as a Gray.
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Wow, there is another one !! Only the second one I have seen exactly like the one I have, There is one exactly like this and mine in England. I am pretty sure its a Nelson Brothers contract engine made for Gray after they stopped making engines do to a fire in their factory, or so I have been told ! Any way nice finds !!

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would there have been a brass tag on this nelson/gray engine?

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jonathon, do you have3 any pics of your engine you can share or post? does yoru engine have a tag on it? how many hp would you think is this engine? i would guess 1-1.5hp?
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I thought that most of the Grays were built by Termaat and Monahan (T & M).

Either way, Great haul you got there... Congrats!

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Nice find !
Children , I just don't know what to think of some of them. Sad...
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Firewoodguy,

Here is a link to a thread with pictures of my engine !

http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showth...016#post584016

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As for Hp I would say between 1 and 1 1/2 would be a good guess !

I need to do a little governor work to my engine, I was running it a while back and part of the governor that the weight touches to slow the engine down came loose and got a little bent, still haven't fixed it right.

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Jonathon, thats a nice engine! i see everything is like mine except where the serial numbers are..I notice your engine has the ser # at the top of hopper and mine is at the lower mid section... i guess from your info and thread, there is only possibly 3 now of these known? would like to see the engine in england. maybe that staker will chime in..
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Default Re: the early 4th of July engine find..help identify engine.

There is some good info and a registry at www.grayhitandmiss.com

Maybe this will help you determine just what you have.
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