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Old 12-21-2008, 01:15:49 AM
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Today I got in mail. I bought photo postcard of 24 hp Greyhound steam traction engine from eBay. This engine has no cleats, installed head lamp and white ring around smokebox door. It's familiar to the two present owners of J. Spangler and M. Neil of Pennsylvania. The photo I believe was taken in mid 50's at either of two oldest Illinois steam show. I remember a gentleman telling me this engine was used for hard working 10 bottom plowing rig in Illinois subsoil farmland up till 1954. They do the plowing for living. It ran two shifts 24 hours plowing. I see the headlamp where they plowed in night. Wish I see this glowing sparks and sound! I do not know if their family have existing plowing photos. I'll keep in mind tracing the original owner. The wheel cleats and gears were almost gone wore out! The current engine now have already installed a brand new old stock gears. The new gears was purchased in 50's from Banting then later it sat in barn over the years and finally installed it in early 90's. The gears had original dealer wired tag!
On back of my photo postcard has no message. Does anybody remember this photo in Illinois show? Where ? Note there is a Reeves engine in background. Greyhound belted up to power the sawmill. See photo below....
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Today I got in mail. I bought photo postcard of 24 hp Greyhound steam traction engine from eBay. This engine has no cleats, installed head lamp and white ring around smokebox door. It's familiar to the two present owners of J. Spangler and M. Neil of Pennsylvania. The photo I believe was taken in mid 50's at either of two oldest Illinois steam show. I remember a gentleman telling me this engine was used for hard working 10 bottom plowing rig in Illinois subsoil farmland up till 1954. They do the plowing for living. It ran two shifts 24 hours plowing. I see the headlamp where they plowed in night. Wish I see this glowing sparks and sound! I do not know if their family have existing plowing photos. I'll keep in mind tracing the original owner. The wheel cleats and gears were almost gone wore out! The current engine now have already installed a brand new old stock gears. The new gears was purchased in 50's from Banting then later it sat in barn over the years and finally installed it in early 90's. The gears had original dealer wired tag!
On back of my photo postcard has no message. Does anybody remember this photo in Illinois show? Where ? Note there is a Reeves engine in background. Greyhound belted up to power the sawmill. See photo below....
Craig,
There is some signage at the far right of the picture. Can you enlarge and enhance that and maybe it will give a clue as to where it was taken?
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Old 12-27-2008, 12:18:14 AM
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There is some signage at the far right of the picture. Can you enlarge and enhance that and maybe it will give a clue as to where it was taken?
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Chuck I have no luck trying to scan in small section. I tried to color copy 11 by 17. The signage is blurry.

Another news reporting. I have scanned two photos of lucky token.
The first photo is a Greyhound dog jump over " Greyhound Lucky Pocket Piece Do Not Lose"
The second photo says " Greyhound Line For Prosperity The Banting Manufacturing Co. Toledo, O. "
I wonder and make me think what the 25mm token(quarter size) was used for? In fact I have no history. If this token was gambled, given at fairground, machinery show or existing customers ? I have found a website http://www.klov.com/library/magazine...--081-P056.pdf Some of you cant put up pdf file here is the third photo. The editor of Token Gamble Museum try to determined what this token used for. No one knows. History is a little lost.
I am sure if I would give you one for whom doesn't have steam traction engine. Lucky Piece Do Not Lose! lol Anybody has an idea what token used for? Is there any other makes have token? There is no connection with a bus company. Just plain farm machinery deal. They sold farm machinery, construction equipment and automobiles (The Banting Motor Car Co.) for Chrysler Dodge. The age of token should be in the manufacturing time of 1915 till 1929.
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I have scanned the original color advertisement. The flyer is foldout stamped 1915. See enclosed photo. Very similar advertising from one of 25mm token. Real nice artist from Farm to the Bank.
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Picture of my restored Greyhound thresher 26 x 42 serial number 301854. I am standing on the thresher to make sure the grain weigh properly working. A friend gave me a photo taken at Northeast Indiana Steam and Gas Association of lagrange, In. 1999.
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I have received a nice Greyhound engine Christmas card last January from an Amish folks Atlee Byler Family of Middlefield, Ohio. Thanks for the card. Atlee jr surf smokstak in the library.
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Craig,

Are they planning on bringing it back for another round at NTA this year?

Sure was fun to listen to it! I know the boys sure had a great time!

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I am not sure. I would love to hear the sound again.
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Bump! Back again I keep posted in this forum from the steam engine ad link
http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/...?product=21370

If you have any questions please post. If interest please private email.
I will post it more of ownerships history and maintaining conditions. I would like to see the Greyhound 24 hp to a new home owner. Owner is from western Pennsylvania.
Bed time ZZZ

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Is that the Greyhound that belong to Edgar and Bill Flowers?
If it is did the new owner ever repair the boiler it did need a rear flue sheet.
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Is that the Greyhound that belong to Edgar and Bill Flowers?
If it is did the new owner ever repair the boiler it did need a rear flue sheet.
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Yes It was previously came from Flowers engine as shown in IMA magazine front cover of Volume 43 January/February 1989. The owner bought the engine and never fired it. I do not know the boiler condition ? You would have to ask him.
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Here's another picture of that engine from Harry Fleming's slides.
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The gentleman's Greyhound engine is from Bulger, Pennsylvania. He is accepting phone calls between 8 to 10:00 pm eastern time. If you need to see or call please private message. I will provide his home number and my cell phone number. I have at least 7 people interested and emailed them or called.
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I see from several photographs that this engine has been ultra sounded. It would save prospective buyers a lot of time anf money if the owner would share those readings with us. We know the rear flu sheet is bad from an earlier post, it looks like a patch was made in the smokebox which is not a big deal, but would like to know what the firebox and mud legs readings are.
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Brian Mann,

It be a whole lot better to get personal inspection. It will take me at least 7 hours to drive to see it and take pictures. I am not sure when I be there. The only thing I don't have is a ultra thickness gauge. I used it a lot from my friend. I can get the inspections throughout all internal boiler and inside side and bottom firebox sheet. It is wet bottom. The axles are rear mounted as shown first photo. Here are the sample of second, third and forth photos. Photo taken from my 1921 Greyhound 24 hp internal firebox condition. Sorry folks my engine is not for sale or trade. Not even trade a CASE or Port Huron.
2. rear flue sheet 52 2 inch flues
3. side sheet is bulched and improper welding. It could have been frozen or insulated heated build up cause stress. Thickness is fair but cant tell what stays dimension alike
4.lower section of inside firebox bottom shows more bulch and may have indicate some sheet wear from firebox grate casting. The wet bottom stays are good thickness even I can see the threads in the dark. My opinion is replace the whole new firebox. If the condition worsen the goal is a whole new boiler. The external thickness reading I have check is good except the small- medium portion of barrel. I have a second 24 hp boiler use for display, removable dimensions.
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More sample photos taken from my engine.
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More sample photos.
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More photos.
1. above fire door worse part is build up on flat surface.
2. smoke stack holding. Almost corroded! Guys be sure to check before transporting. I know one guy had this happened. Another one I saw a CASE engine bought by Amish. I told him to remove it. The steam guys prove it unneeded. later the Amish folk told me I prove it right. It fell it in pieces. When I transport my engine . I have long 3 x 3 wood to prevent from happening.

3. Common rust through barrel front flue sheet.
4. This is correct cast stack. I have seen a Greyhound with incorrect Port Huron stack. It do look lot like to fit but different bolt pattern.
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Hey L. Russell or A. Russell
I posted one of a photo. I search hundred grandma, pa's tractor or steam photos and found it! i remember they told me and went to see you in mid or late 1980's. It looks like a nice restorations before the engine tore apart for a new boiler. You have a 45 inch Port Huron cast smoke stack. This 24 hp Greyhound is owned by Russell family of Michigan.

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L. Russell ! Post your message.

Hey A. Russell I know you are still lurking. Register and post it here. Everyone will be waiting to hear from you.
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Hey Craig!

Thanks for the invite!

You will have a rough time getting Dad to correspond! He is still a Telephone and Polaroid guy!

Nice picture! I wish it was that complete again!

Lyman!
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