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Exhaust Manifold (High Heat Paint?)


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Old 02-26-2009, 06:55:31 PM
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Default Exhaust Manifold (High Heat Paint?)

Here's a question I'm sure someone can answer fairly easily. I just bought a reproduction manifold for my MM/Twin City KTA which comes painted "Prairie Gold" from the supplier. The yellow is now gone but I would like to replace it with a flat black.

I have been told that a powder coat would be fairly pricey and probably a little overkill for a machine that will only run perhaps, 50 hours a year! How do good quality high temperature engine primer/paints compare. Would the rattle can solution suffice, even with several coats?

Hope someone can fill me in. Thanks in advance!
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:31:33 AM
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I prefer using high heat paint made for stoves. It is better than engine paints an stands up fairly well. Run after installing to get it hot and bake it on.

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Here is another option.
http://www.jet-hot.com/colorchart.html
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I would go to Eastmans and look at the high temp stainless manifold paint they have. I have used it and it seems to hold up well. You need to sandblast the manifold before applying
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I meant Eastwood not Eastmans I got Eastman Gun show on my mind going tomorrow.
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I just go to the hardware store and buy a pint of black "grill paint". It holds-up fine and is cheap and easy.

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Jeff, Eastwood does have some good heat coatings that I have used in the past.
Powder coats, ceramic, and Jet Hot are good but expensive.

I would put in my vote for stove black, or barbecue black along with Lyle, and Eldon.
Do not use the cheapest "wal-mart" heat black. I did and I was sorry, as it did not perform as well as a more expensive can from a hardware store did. JD brand from JD dealer is one of the best so far.
The current issue of Antique Power has my MM-TC model J standard on the cover/centerfold. I used a John Deere brand rattle can on it with good results.
Blast the manifold, and do not handle it with bare, oily hands or dirty gloves. Put several thin coats on allowing some dry time between light coats. Place on top of wood stove, or in an oven at low-medium (200 degree is plenty) heat for half hour. Running it on the tractor can work ok also.
In the future you can effectively mask off your tractor, scuff manifold with a 3M Scotch Bright, and apply a thin touch up coat or two and it will look very nice again for some time

Can you tell us what supplier you purchased the repo manifold from? What was the cost, and are you happy with the quality?
You do realize that we want you to post photo's for us, right
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I have used the barbacue black paint from rustoleum, you can pick up at menards. Works pretty well for me and is easy to touch up. The other ways work well to. Phil
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You are in Ontario and there are Home Despots everywhere. Barbecue black is the best thing going. The stuff at Home Depot is flat black and you don't have to sandblast or prime the heck out of your piece. It is a fantastic product

Locally here, powder coat is fairly cheap. If that is what you want and can afford you should go for it.
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Well thanks for the heads up boys! I really appreciate it.

Tony the manifold came from Steiner's but I purchased it through a gentleman from Port Burwell, Ontario who used to own an M-M dealerhip with his brother back in the 50's. He is still very active in the reproduction/used parts business. He has some deal with Steiner (their catalogue with his name on the cover) It was pretty pricey but what the hell, it should be good for anoher 74 years!

The picture is from a while ago, the paint is about 90% stripped now. I have new rings for it, had the valves ground with new seats, block sleaved, carb rebuilt. The babbit bearings are getting done this spring. It's been quite an adventure for a young enthusiast! She'll be brand new though!
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Looking good Jeff, you will have a very good tractor there when you are done! I hope you are taking lots of pictures, because you can tell people you restored something, or you can show them....one carries a lot more weight than the other.

That manifold may be a whole lot more expensive than you think. I am guessing it was made overseas (most likely China, however the replacement water pump for my MM 4 Star is thought to be made in Turkey)? We should be making them here so we would have more jobs. America gave my job to China twice over the years. The huge buildings where I used to work stand empty now, and this has cost my family and others hundreds of thousands
Expensive repo manifolds?.....Yes, very, very expensive
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The best I found is the Eastwood products. You can get silver, black or cast iron grey. The BBQ black works well to, but may need to be reapplied after a dyno run.
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I know it's really hard to do but the trick a old racing engine builder told me was to get the manifold or headers clean by bead or sand blasting and then all the dust cleaned off with paint thinner. Wear clean plastic gloves on final cleaning, when painting and yes even when installing before heated up by the engine. It's any of kind of oil at all even from fingerprints that makes the paint peel off in some spots. Keeping it clean and fingerprints off will let he high heat paint cure and less apt to peel off. Any of it is only going to stay on there for so long before burning off again but having it clean as possible makes it last longer.
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