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Old 02-09-2011, 10:03:11 PM
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Default Johnson Utilimotor Original Color

Well I have acquired 2 Johnson Utilimotors. As I have done before for a friend of mine, he is giving me one to restore one for him. It's a win win for me because they are both in great shape with spark. My questions are;

Is there a pdf manual out there to download or copy?

What was the original color, or were they like the Maytag uprights with many configurations?

The green one has what looks to me as an original flex exhaust adapter. Is that what it is?

Last, is there something about these to watch out for wile I an going through them?

Thanks in advance for all the coments!!!
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:24:19 PM
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Default Re: Johnson Utilimotor original color

Yes that is the exaust hose hook up. I have had a few of these and one was painted what appeared to be original paint and was black , had another that seemed original, and it was silver grey like the one you have pictured.
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Hi Dennis - nice looking engines. You are correct that is an adapter for a flex hose. I attached a pic of a Johnson my Dad drug home a while back with the same adapter. The one I pictured is similiar to yours but has the outside support on the crank and has a Bosch igntion instead of the Wico (type FG?) on yours. I've had a couple with broken carbs so be careful when working on the carbs. On the ignition the magnets are in a ring on the center. Be careful handling them to not loose magnetism - they can be a real pain to try and recharge. Good luck I'm sure you will have them looking great in no time.

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I think I may go with the silver. It looks to possibly be the original color on the one. I noticed something else on these. Both of mine have the spark plug on the flywheel side and all the other pictures I have and looked at, it is on the exhaust side. The piston can only go in one way in the cylinder do to the fuel passage in the side. With the plug on the flywheel side, the plug is at the high point side of the piston like a Maytag 92. With it on the exhaust side the plug is at the slope side of the piston like a Maytag upright. My question is, Is it supposed to be on the exhaust side and would there might be a reason it was on the flywheel side?
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Are Utilimotors hard to time? On youtube they sound like they aren't timed right. My Johnson runs great and I can start it by turning the fly wheel. I seen that the point backing plate is turned, and were the plug wire comes out of its not straight up and down. Is this a reason for timing? Also does anybody have a plug wire tower for sale? The old wire was sottered to the coil, which worked, but the Maytag 82 tower doesn't work. Thanks.

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The pictures didn't download on the first one
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The pictures wont download.

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This is a lot of post. lol.last one.
Here is one that has the plug on the exhaust side.
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The pictures wont download.

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This is a lot of post. lol.last one.
Here is one that has the plug on the exhaust side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgD_f23db8k
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The cylinder head unbolts, it's not part of the cylinder. The plug can be positioned either way. I think it is suppost to be on the exhaust side though.
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Default Re: Johnson Utilimotor original color

I've been thinking about the spark plug position ever since I got my Utilimotor and it was on the exhaust side of the cylinder. If you look at how a Maytag is setup, having the plug on the exhaust side doesn't seem right. Why would you want your ignition where the exhaust gases are flowing anyway? I flipped the head around on my Utilimotor and it runs like a r*ped ape now! Anyone have some original literature that shows the spark plug position?

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Mike, That dose run pretty good I have been hammering away at these and a very nice knowledgeable gentleman in Canada offered me a manual and lots of good information. It looks like yours and mine may be the only ones with the plug on the flywheel side. After cleaning and stripping the paint I found traces of what looks to be a dark Battle ship gray on both of them. I am positioning the heads back on the exhaust side to make it like the manual shows. I am also painting them Grey. Here is a couple picks from the manual. I will post some picks when they are done.
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Default Re: Johnson Utilimotor Original Color

Dennis,
My engine had the plug on the exhaust side when I got it, but I had seen others with it on the flywheel side and started thinking about it, and the way the Maytag is designed, and switched it. I will change it back now that I know, without a doubt, that it should be on the exhaust side. Still doesn't make sense to me.
My engine is grey and seems to be the original paint.

Here's a video I made today after switching the head back around. I also made the little wire stand for the plug wire. Seems to run just as good.

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Guys, here are pics of my newly completed Utilimotor. It has the FG mag. I used Rustoleum Light Machine Grey in a rattle can. Turned out fine. Last pic is of it running last week for the 1st time. Be careful with the mag, used small magnets as keepers on the magneto magnets when they were out of the mag(doesn't sound right, but you will know when you get there). The carb is like a human heart with several "valves" the open and close with small rubber washers. Make sure the springs don't get lost and the washers and seats are free of all dirt and grime. These carbs are touchy to get the needle just right; very small changes will do the trick. There are a lot of parts in this suction carb!!
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Mike, There doesn't seem to be much difference ether way dose there? Thanks for the video!
kelby, Nice restore!! I haven't had time to get into the carbs. yet so thanks for the heads up!!
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Does anyone have a picture or wiring digram for mag and points on a Johnson utilimotor thanks for any help. Randy
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My engine club has one mounted under a washing machine. It is a light green, like the one in your photo. I have a very early Jacobsen, made right after Johnson sold the factory to Jacobsen. In fact, the engine S/N is actually dated before the sale (1933), so I am thinking thet Jacobsen was making engines at the Johnson factory before the del was concluded (1934). Mine is a machine grey, and has the WICO FG magneto. It also has a factory clutch on it. Both engines have the plug on the exhaust side, I believe to keep the ignition wire off the flywheel.
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randyb, here is a pic of my Utilimotor mag. These mags are self-timing since the flywheel has a pin that drives the rotation of the magnets which also trip the points. There is a cover over the points connection. Otherwise, it is pretty straight forward.

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Dennis Wyatt and randyb, Look in the thread Timing a Johnson Utilimotor.....That explains the mag and there is a pic of the mag in my engine. I can't upload the pic since I have already done so in that thread. Kelby
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Default Re: Johnson Utilimotor Original Color

Here is one that no one talked about. With the fins horizontal , the spark plug faces up. It looks like they didn't know which way they they wanted to go. Ron
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OK thank you I will check it out
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Does anyone have a picture or wiring digram for mag and points on a Johnson utilimotor thanks for any help. Randy
Here is a couple of scans that may help you.
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Default Re: Johnson Utilimotor Original Color

Hello Utilimotor owners, Im new to all this but excited to learn. I bought the utilimotor and need help (info) on this. Is this motor a HitNmiss? where can I get info on how to make it run. The kick works and the piston seems to be fre and I belive it has compression. I tried to remove flywheel to clean up the innereds. I saw the Wco magnitto. any help would be appreciated' Thanks Again Jay Shoemaker
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