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Twin City Small Tractors. "On a WHIM"


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Old 09-05-2019, 12:58:59 PM
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Default Re: Twin City Small Tractors. "On a WHIM"

Bevel gear for governor was used through the GE motor. LE motor used spiral like a U or later G.. GE motor often called open flywheel. Both were 403 same as most 21-32/FT except for earliest ones. The early ones were 340 same as the GTC in 40's. GE motors were babbit whereas LE had precision.
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Default Propping up my addiction to 21-32‘s and small TC’s in general.

Thanks GB! Needed that bit of gold!
And shows. Went to the Dalton, MN show Friday with my buddies May-ur Keith and Steve! (Lake Region Pioneer Thresherman’s show https://threshers.org/ and had a wonderful time! It’s only 1 to 1-1/2 hours away and Steve drove. Great! I have not been there since there was only a couple hundred feet of track in place for the little French locomotive (an oddball here in the upper Midwest) to run on. 30-35 years.
For quite a while, there’s been a LARGE circle of track on a beautiful grounds of grass and young trees. Neat depot and free train rides.
(Stay with me here) Kind of like when someone filled up Swed’s building at Rollag FULL of 7-10 foot young trees, wired up ALL around the fences. Someone had keys. Not me but I may have helped. I thought it looked really nice! The green against the iron in that U shaped walkway... Elaine was NOT pleased the next morning. It was a good idea at the time.
Dalton is absolutely gorgeous, like Swed’s building was that night.
Eh hem. We toured the show-grounds and all the buildings. New sidewalks all around main street and improvements are still happening. Bowled over by the red Parkdale Elevator. Soon ready to go! People on both sides of the fence are quite friendly and had a good visit with my 6th grade music teacher and director of our local Men’s Chorus. He’s caretaker of his family’s house there. Maybe my voice can do the 4th? verse of Jester Hairston's "Amen" yet.
Good show!
Out in tractor-land, one Twin City was over in the IH area. Hehehe. They’re separated/segregated there. Us Twin City folk, whilst my foot touches valve springs from two different Twin City tractors, we do our own thing and sing our own song... Yeah, whatever Duane. Perhaps the owner put it next to his nice M, huh?
The one and only Silver King was wearing a parade tag “OT xx” Other Tractor 16 or some-such. ie. JD 15, IH 22, MH 19 and MM 23.
A big four cylinder (gasser) Russel lives there! We think that tractor’s uber cool. It is!
A big Aultman-Taylor simply said “No.” to his care taker. Not interested in parading that day.
The two small Twin City’s there were 21-32‘s! 151265 (1929) and 155107 (1935).
I do not believe any of the three 17-30B? Minneapolis tractors had run in awhile...Sweet cross-motors.

21-32‘s. Let’s see! Here’s 151265 (#962 tractor yet his engine is only number #522 101007 block series FE1F). A very quick look on the tube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5R0yYP83K8
"Slab sided" flat side oil filter base already. Early heads with 4 post water outlet manifold so it has the bigger 2-1/8 valves. FE224 cylinders from 10-43 so a 403.
Next up is 155107 but never smart enough to take more pics. Dang it, never occurred to me to see block series on the '35. Durn it. Should've inspected TC's first thing I did there.

6356. Hot-Spot equipped. He’s been worked on a bunch in the last 10. Wonder what his story is?
7602. IH mag.
9626. NO foot pedal here. Hmmm? Wait a sec D, he’s older than parts #1217 here.
7440. Fuel tanks with band.
5348. The gap betwixt the tanks.
2205. 2's shaft has that extra keyway and this one they left the turning marks.
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Default Last bit on 151265

4908. IF this'll post. Engine 522, number 101007-100485(start)=522. Zoom in.
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Old 09-08-2019, 02:27:09 AM
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Default 21-32 TC 155107, the few pics I took.

Grrr. Darned computers/sites. Hit the right unknown button and all is lost. Dang it.
Anew: The boilermen at Dalton, once explained where we were from, were very gracious to us and let us in.
Neat operation and Leffel boiler/s. They have two Leffel’s! Oh wait so do we but the mini is not fired. Cannot recall their small Leffel boiler and what it does. Brain-dead and my friend’s would agree. Not a comparison but we were blessed with a BIG Leffel Boiler in Albany and it is very free steaming. One fellow treated us very nicely, showed us around their yet further back room and talked to us like friends. Great guy. He’ll be in Albany next weekend. I hope I see him there. He is very welcome. Inside.
The Highway Patrolman boiler operator was very quiet until Keith messed with him and then still quiet’ish...... Such a wonderful experience at Dalton. Good guys, good fun!
Didn’t make it to the Atwater, MN show today, Too much (needed) time in Albany. An hour turned into 5. OK.
There’s always tomorrow, even if I have to use an umbrella! It’s raining here.
Messed up enough in the head to wish both of these TC’s were mine.
7826. This ‘35 FT-A has the numbered lower rad tank. Perhaps a dead horse beating subject. I do not know.
Could be an up grade/down grade situation with rad’s on this tractor. You tell me?
I’ll play it this way: A 21-32 rating on a tractor that has exceeded these marks hard already.
Stuck tighter than...
Yes, an AT-4 LP, do not remember his designations, and a UB LP in the background. A fellow asked us if we know who had the AT-4. He liked it and wanted it. Minneapolis-Moline’s running on LP are a true joy. Spent good time on an LP powered U. We didn’t know spit. Fun stuff! In demand. Still. His xxxsomeonexxx had a Diesel and ... EDIT: That ain't no UB in the background. That's a U.
6106. This guy’s tag. I shouldn’t lip off about lower rad tanks perhaps.
7541. A replaced/down clutch handle with no foot pedal on a ‘35 FT-A?
7333. His GE engine number. Zoom in. Remember, GB says the GE block is still a Babbitt engine and the precision bearings were yet to come in the LE engines with the spiral gov/oil gears. K?
7767. This ‘35‘s fuel tank/s. No gaps, straps or extras.
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Default 21-32 FE1H block engine bits.

Replies: We surpassed the original cubic inches of this 21-32 tractor engine which is 381 or 2, I think. I helped too.
My brain says 383, prob'ly Mopar induced. Not that I'm looking for 403... Get it Huh? Yeah, ya get it. I'm afraid there's more to come.
Stumps me how that many looks INTO this thread have happened. Thank you all for looking into this madman's long time dream.
It is appreciated yet not required, done on OUR own volition. There is perhaps more interest in Twin City small tractors than I realize. .
The Ford model T world and this antique tractor world are a lot alike.
Operating on trust sometimes. That's a neat thing.
A "little birdy" actually stopped in and dropped off a cam for me. Thank you sir.
The wicked witch of the west said it best. I'll get you my XXXXXX. Remember? 1939 I think.
No meat nor potatoes in this post. Or is there?
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Default Re: Twin City Small Tractors. "On a WHIM"

21-32 first models. 4 1/2 x 6 = 381
21-32/Ft/FTA/GT/GTA/GTB/GB 4 5/8 x 6 = 403
GTC LP 4 1/4 x 6 = 341
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Default Re: Twin City Small Tractors. "On a WHIM"

Gold per usual GB! Didn't know about the GTC LP. When? Too darned lazy to search right now.
An LP powered M/Moline GTC 341 will produce as much horses as a bigger bore 403 gasser eh. Prob'ly. 100 Octane LP.
BIL's dad (Groops) kept a little gas powered pump (with a nice tin cover) under a 500 gallon tank in the backyard to feed their '52 U to refill his round tank.
See Tony's Unusual devices... thread too. His latest finds are Gold to me too. Suits the KT here perhaps.
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