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Old 06-13-2009, 07:33:15 PM
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These two are my first two purchases of the show season (Paris Ontario Show) and I know that they are Briggs Engines. They are both loose and look almost complete. I have the serial and models numbers recorded but know very little about them. It would be helpful to know the hose power, model, year built of each, and if all the right parts are there.

Engine on the left has Model= 5S, Serial #= 1244271
Engine on the right had Model= 6Bs Serial #= 4025

I am kind of new to the hobby so help is much appreciated.
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:46:21 PM
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Default Re: Two Briggs.

Well your 5S was made in 1953 and is a 1.0 hp. Engine. Your 6BS was made in 1952 and is a 1.5 hp. They look pretty good to me. Here is a very helpful link http://www.oldengine.org/members/mur...nformation.htm
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:45:25 AM
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1 horsepower for the 5S is generous, they were rated at 0.8 hp new but could produce up to 1 hp at high rpm.

They were and are excellent engines. I've had one start with as little as 15 pounds of compression, no real power, but it started.
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Old 06-14-2009, 03:58:26 PM
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Another thing about the 6BS was that it was the more modern version of the 6S. Aluminum to cheapen production but BOTH VERY good engines. I happen to have both aswell. Sometimes i beleive the 6BS runs better then the 6S of mine. Maybee becouse the 6S was rebuilt and it's still tight. The 6BS is all original. Starts on the second pull cold, first pull warm.
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Just a quick update, the 5s ran for the first time today and sputtered along with no problems. I still have quite a bit more painting to do, including the shroud again but it should be finished soon. Here are some pictures on its newly constructed engine stand. (Engine stand still has to be finished)

The 6bs is still a work in progress as well but has also run.

Also, what kind of paint do you guys use for painting these engines as the kind I am using is giving me some trouble. (Dupli-Colour)
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We use Briggs paint. You can order it from your local Briggs dealer.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:10:37 PM
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I use the dupli-color engine enamel and rarely have problems. You DO need to follow the instructions and re-coat within one hour or wait (I believe) a week to re-coat again.
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I follow the instructions according to the can and the paint works well for smaller pieces of the engine. I find it hard to apply an even coat to larger sections such as the shroud because the paint tends to dry quickly and I have some spots were a coarse surface is apparent. I am not sure if you understand what I mean but if you do I would be pleased to hear some input as you have some nice looking engines
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Hmmmm... I rarely have any trouble. I usually spray a coat of primer, then follow up with another coat about 15 min later. I spray, mostly in one direction for the first coat, and the reverse direction for the second.

The next day I follow up with the color, using the same procedure to apply the color as I did with the primer.

I do recall that with one or two of the engines, I got a rough patch on the finish; but a little sanding after a week, and a repeat of the primer/color corrected this.

Living in North Carolina, I'm wondering if the difference in the temperature and/or humidity of our different climates might be affecting the results between what you and I achieve ?

I usually paint outdoors.
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On mine I use Mercury Outboards Phantom Black. It's also heat resistant as well.....
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I'll add a little more to this pertaining to surface preparation.

The standard operating procedure for all my renovations is to completely dis-assemble the engine and sand-blast the individual components down to bare metal on all to-be-painted surfaces. I then wipe clean with mineral spirits and blow dry, then paint. All my major painting is done while the engine is dis-assembled.

After assembly, and any bugs with running are worked out, (yea, every once in a while there are a few) I follow up with a coat of clear-coat.

One problem I've seen with the dupli-color recently is the following: I use gloss black for mostly a "trim" color. I had about half a can and recently sprayed an air cleaner cover, it dried with a very dull finish. I repeated the process and got the same result. I bought a fresh can and, voila! a nice brite shiney finish, but several days later, when I painted another piece black I got the same dull finish, so this has me perplexed.
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Default Re: Two Briggs.

I have had the same thing happen with Krylon it will be dull on the second coat a week later or have dull spots on the first coat?
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Here is a link to how we paint.

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Craig, that is the problem I am having with some of the pieces of my engine. After I prep and prime the pieces some spots turn out dull compared to the desired glossy finish. Some of these dull surfaces also have a coarser texture to it. I have also noticed that a new "fresh" can solves the problem but after a few uses it is harder to make an even coat. I recently purchased a spry gun and am going to try it out, hopefully everything will turn out better.

And thanks Mike for those helpful tips.
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The Dupli Color Engine Enamel Gloss Black seems to be touchy about humidity in the air. I have sprayed parts that looked great - Mirror smooth shiny finish and with the same can, had it come out milky, dull and / or wrinkled. Watch the weather and look for days with less than 50% humidity.
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Thanks Mike, being an old woodworker, I'm sure the same adage applies. You can (should) spend as much time on the finish as you do on the build.

and John- Thanks again for the tip, I fugured it might have something to do with humidity.
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Sometimes we spend MORE time on paint prep and paint then the rest of the work.
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