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Briggs and Stratton 81301 Questions


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Old 01-20-2017, 10:49:10 PM
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Default Briggs and Stratton 81301 Questions

I picked up a couple bolens Versa matics recently one came with a Briggs and Stratton that is marked with the model number 81301. I am looking for a gasket kit for this engine and also possibly a magneto and points and condenser as well. I cannot find anything on this model at all in this forum or other bolens forums. My bolens collectors tell me the engine should be an 81302 model. It definitely reads 81301. Where can I get parts for this model. Anyone have any good info on completely restoring one? I'm new to this forum so I'm not sure how to upload pics yet.
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:00:23 PM
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If you have a decent B & S dealer locally, he probably has what you need. The 80301 and 80302 difference is--- the "1" is rope start, and "2" is recoil start. 90% of the parts are the same. There are also dealers on this site that can send parts to you.
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Old 01-21-2017, 12:15:49 PM
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Default Re: Briggs and Stratton 81301 Questions

I can likely still get most of what you need from B&S , These was a difference in coil's depending on your serial number break so would need that to determine the coil.

I should have the coils, points condenser's in stock but probably have to order the gasket set.

or send me a PM here.

---------- Post added at 11:15:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:14:47 AM ----------

hmm thats strange smoke stack wont let you post links to a site.
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Default Re: Briggs and Stratton 81301 Questions

I accidentally broke a flywheel fin when removing it. How detrimental is that? Will it still run fine?
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Old 01-21-2017, 06:43:18 PM
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Default Re: Briggs and Stratton 81301 Questions

Also does anyone know where I can find a replacement magneto? I found the part number on Briggs and Stratton website but it isn't in production and I can find no mention of any replacement ones.
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Old 01-21-2017, 08:32:20 PM
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Default Re: Briggs and Stratton 81301 Questions

Flywheel .... The broken fin should not effect the engine much but most everybody recommends breaking off the fin opposite the broken one to restore or help out the flywheel balance.

Magneto ... Put the part number on ebay and I would be surprised if it does not come up. If by magneto you mean the complete assembly including the backing plate they also show up a lot on ebay.

It is best to include the part numbers if you have any when posting on this form.


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When I search my engine number on Briggs and strattons website most of the pets including the magneto is not available. When I plug that number into eBay or anywhere else I come up with nothing. Does anyone have a part number for the magneto armature that is still available somewhere. Or is it possible to fix my current one. The wire that goes to spark plug and to the points have broken off.
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write to Bolens 1000 and mention you have the old 3 leg coil. Did you call a local dealer?
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Default Re: Briggs and Stratton 81301 Questions

That is one of the more difficult Briggs parts searches I have ever seen. Especially for such a simple thing a an ignition coil. Turns out all 3 options are still available from Briggs.

The only ignition coil, assuming that is the part you are asking for, you most likely need is part number 298502 that lists for $32.40 . That is the only one for a point and condenser ignition. Your engine should be after "date code" 6212310. That is probably the TYPE number on your ID numbers, not the serial number.


Other 2 options == Both are "Magnetron" (electronic) ignitions.


PN = 397316 ... "Ignition GRP" (group) with trigger. Lists for $26.30. I think this is a transition coil Briggs used at some time when they were upgrading the point condenser coils using PN 394970 kit (trigger) to electronic ignition.


PN = 395489 ... Magnetron. This is the electronic ignition they went to and still use, in one form or another, today. Lists for $33.25. It is only used on 812XX models.


You can convert any GOOD 2 leg coil, using the 394370 kit, to electronic ignition.

If you suspect a bad coil find, or buy,a later production Magnetron coil assembly. Bolt it on and go.

Gary
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Default Re: Briggs and Stratton 81301 Questions

This information is really helpful. The only question I have is everything I've read says if you convert to a magnetron you have to do something with the flywheel or have it magnetized or something. The exact numbers for this engine are 81301 943733 6105110. So is there a magnetron that I can literally just bolt on and I'm good to go?
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Default Re: Briggs and Stratton 81301 Questions

post # 2, picture 3 clearly shows a 3 LEG IGNITION COIL, a 2 leg will not work! Your engine was produced before 6212310 (Dec 31, 1962) The part number was originally 291617. I do not know if it has changed number or is still available. I do not have the shop computer available at this time to check on that coil.
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Default Re: Briggs and Stratton 81301 Questions

Part. No. 291617 Is what I've been looking for and have had zero luck. Anyone know where to find this part? I messaged bolens 1000 as suggested above so maybe he has some suggestions
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The 291617 is NLA but I have one left I could sell you , I replied to your PM
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Any body ever try taking the 298968 coil (8hp aluminum block and later cast iron engines), remove the coil from the laminations and put it on a 3 leg laminations??????
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Default Re: Briggs and Stratton 81301 Questions

To tdjohnson1187. Sorry I could not help you. But I see gdstew and Bolens 1000 had the answers.
I should know better than to go parts chasing without all the ID numbers. With no numbers I took the first of two IPLs I had and went with that. Of course your type no was on the second and it shows the 29617 as NLA as you found.
I must have taken apart or repaired at least 30, or so, 80xxx series. and I considered them all the same. I will be keeping a sharper eye out now.

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Any body ever try taking the 298968 coil (8hp aluminum block and later cast iron engines), remove the coil from the laminations and put it on a 3 leg laminations??????
They are made completely different, I dont think that would work well.
I've been trying to get the OEM's to start making these again but so far no luck.
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