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Scale Models 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, ect


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more JD steamer
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hopfully attached will be the long awaited pictures of a Jeff Smith engine in its work clothes.....earning its keep running a cane press at a sorghum mill...I believe in N. Carolina..
Thank you Casemaker. If they want help removing the red paint I know a simple way..............it usually only takes one hurricane.

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hopfully attached will be the long awaited pictures of a Jeff Smith engine in its work clothes.....earning its keep running a cane press at a sorghum mill...I believe in N. Carolina..
http://www.forestryforum.com/board/i...html#msg774393

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here is pictures of a NS engine that sold at the Tony Brenda sale in Okla yesterday... it bought $2500
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here is more pictures of this engine being built.... the builder/owner is pictured and he built this in his shop class.... currently he is finishing up the threshing machine for it....
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Casemaker,

Based on the price of the Nick that just sold, the JD should be priced considerably lower in my opinion....

I believe we have met several years ago. You were cleaning up some family property, and I got some wheels and tires from a MM tractor from you if I'm not mistaken.

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Joe,
yes.... the scrappers got that MM ZTU tractor before you got there...... I agree the JD steamer is too many unanswered questions for that price...maybe with it cleaned up and running it might be ok for the $8 k.
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I would like to see a thread with pictures of anyone that either has or has built a scale model, code and non code boilers. Over the years Ive seen many beautiful models that need to be enjoyed by all...
Don't mean to cut in, but since you are getting yourself into the middle of documenting scale models, but Please point me in the right direction . I need to know if Scale Traction Engines or raw castings are still available. If so From WHO and WHERE ?
If i don't get some sort of relief from this craving desire to want and build one (1/4 to 1/2 scale) I'll attempt to reinvent the wheel, and you know where that goes.
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I figure i need to jump on the band wagon and get my engine in the mix with the rest of the nice models. Here is a picture of my engine and the water wagon i just finished building over the winter.
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I just wanted to show my two Universals.
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Ok scale makers. I have a question. Do you fudge any of the dimensions on your boilers to give you more heating surface area or do you just put as much flu area as possible. Any insight would be awesome!
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It is best to use at least 1 inch tubes /flues personally, I try to lower the crown sheet /top of fire box to the half way position
as this gives more water space. Very nice if you are running on the ground keeps it covered more and put a larger door on get bigger wood in larger coal .
what scale are you thinking of building and what make
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Heres probably the finest park loco in the USA. It was built by
Augie Otto of Sandwich Il. and runs on 1000 feet of track at the Sandwich Fair every fall.Took 7yrs. to build weighs 9000 lbs.
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Hello Nick; I don't want to swat at a hornet's nest but here I go anyway. Some things do not scale well for practical use purposes. One thing is tubes / flues. A lot of scale size flues may not work as well as fewer, larger flues. The smaller the dia. of the tube the easier it will plug. Lots of models will "sit and smoke" and not be under a load for a lot of the time they are steamed up. Especially if you are burning coal, not having a load and the better airflow provided by the exhaust if you have a good smokebox seal can accelerate buildup in the tubes. A decrease in the ability to keep up pressure is a possible sign of this. A lot of engineers I know will not only punch the tubes in the morning but also again at lunchtime. I've lit the match, we'll sit back and see if I have managed to start another wildfire as the always welcome other opinions get voiced. That is, after all, how we all learn. Hope this helps, 3/4A
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It is my opinion based on what I have seen that I would recommend using 2 inch flues. Your mileage may vary
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I would have to agree with Half Keck on the flue size. Terning used 2" flues in his scale engines and they will work well if you fire them correctly. If you try to use large pieces of wood they will not work. 2" x 2" aprox will work great all day long. 4 days of working on Butch Volmers saw mill at NTA this last summer proved it works.

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I agree with halfkeck on the 2" and am happy with my boiler with them, but I would like to try 1-3/4" if I ever build something for my sons. I think there would be less heat loss up the stack because I could get more of them in the barrel. Some of the engine manufactures used them in their smaller engines.
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John, I thought some of the Turnings had 1 3/4 tubes?

My vote is also 2" tubes. I wouldn't build one with smaller flues.

I have seen bad coal and wood plug even 2" tubes in just a couple of hours to the point that the engine wouldn't draft properly.
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Hi All; I am happy with the performance of the 2" flues / tubes in my boiler. I have also fired other engines with 2" flues / tubes and found them to be much more user friendly than an engine of comparable size but with 1 1/4" flues / tubes. I have run a 15" 4-4-0 loco with essentially the same boiler, and it would go all day long on the morning's cleaning. It was, however, pulling multiple coaches and climbing grades, which while hard on hats kept the I.D. pretty clean. The traction engine boiler was much more succeptable to buildup as it wasn't worked as hard. No matter what size they are, remember to keep scraps of O.S.B., particle board, and M.D.F.B. out of your firebox. They may seem like a good fire up supply since they burn easily, but boy that glue residue isn't good for heat transfer and can be a bear to scrape or brush out, especially after it has cooled and hardened. All for now, hope this helps, 3/4 A
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