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Default Way Back At Milton Steam Era!

A neighbour gave me a bunch of old b&w pictures from Milton show. Not sure of dates but must be in the 60s. At any rate, I'll post a few just for fun. They are not all steam however.
Recognize anybody or anything?
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And a couple more.
Back then, the Milton fair grounds was almost still in the country. Now it is a fish bowl surounded by suburbia!
More pix to come!
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Better throw in a couple of steam ones that came with the group as some of the other b&w ones to come are non steam.
First is supposed to be an 18hp Goodison. Back of the card says it was owned by Carl Carpenter though I think his name was actually Earl - anyone recollect him? Not sure where it is now - maybe Poland? The calliope was a regular thing of beauty though if you were stuck next to it for the whole show ...... The sign says "Ontario's First Agricultural Museum" and I suppose it was. It was a great museum in Stratford. But everything was sold off long ago. The Thomson's were the ones who brought the Port Huron hi-wheeler over to Ontario years ago.
Second card has been on here before I suspect - 76 Sawyer-Massey then owned by Gordon Smith. Mr. Smith passed away a few years back and he was one of the early collectors here. He was also a member of the Provincial Parliament in Toronto so had a few connections that helped the show. Nice big, strong engine and still in running shape today - was at this year's show! Cards are dated 1966.
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And a couple more. The Model T assembly team! Not sure what the record time was but perhaps one of the older () attendees like Robert bin Sawyer will have that data? I have not seen this done for years but it was a lot of fun to watch them build this car from piles and drive away in a few short minutes! Who are all those guys anyway?
The Stars and Stripes is visible but the Canadian flag is "furled" so not sure if it is the Maple Leaf or the earlier Red Ensign as that would help date these a little better?
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G: First pair of pics I see Gord Smiths 20-40 S-M, Bill Johnston's big White, and in the second pic you can see Johnston's Locomobile in the background. Third pic, the Bell with the canopy should be Alan Byers, the 17 S-M with the white walls is that of Vince Riddel of Newmarket, that should be his shiny Goodison beside it, and farther down the line next to the other S-M avec rubber tires may be Wynn Nichols S-M.

With the Model T assembly team, one of those young lads should be Porky Schneider.

Great pics, great thread.

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Great old pictures G.

Look at the crowds in the first couple especially. Car guys and steam guys living together in smoky harmony.

We were just going through some old slides from the 70s at Cookstown. Some old weathered faces that really knew their stuff around engines.

Thanks and keep them coming if you have more.
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G: In the pic of the Caliope, in the back ground is Bill Johnston's Cock of the North. At the controls of the 76 S-M may well be Garnet [Bish] Pattenden [looks like his choice of apparel]. Also on the flywheel side of the jacketing, it may read Gord Smith / Alan Byers Orillia Ontario.

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Robert bin Sawyer?
Say! You may be right about Bish! He knew his stuff about steam and many other things. And he wasn't too bad a singer also although I guess I never really heard him in his prime!??! So many good names, so many fine people, so many of them gone from us!
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Again, these two are not steam; but my goodness, that is an awfully nice line up of early vehicles! And look at the condition! Looks like some elm trees in the background also. All the big elms bit the dust around home here in the early to mid-60s when the dutch-elm came through!
I think the license plate on the one Chevy says 1963. But my eyes aren't worth a damn close up anymore so I can't be sure!??!
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Onkel G!

...need my reading glasses??? I'd be glad to send you a pair for Christmas....especially if you keep posting these great pictures!

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And a couple more for tonight.
The 30-50 Rumbler was owned by Gerald Garbutt according to the back of the card. It is pulling a 32x50 Waterloo mill. I think I know where the Oil Pull is but not sure about the thresher? That is a fair chunk of a seperator for these parts? I have been told that there were more 30-50 Oily Pukes in Ontario than anywhere else and I believe that as some of the shows used to have as many as 6 years ago!
The Waterloo is marked as a 20-22, owned by F Fox. I have lost track of this one too? Some guys will argue (steam guys argue?????) about colours for Waterloos. Actually though, I have seen this colour on them under the old grease and corruption. It is kind of an unholy shade of green but this engine looks pretty snazzy with nice jacket, spark screen, and fender! A genuine beauty anyone could be proud to own!
Again, 1966.
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...need my reading glasses??? I'd be glad to send you a pair for Christmas....especially if you keep posting these great pictures!

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Beth?
Glasses I have, 2 pair. And prescription too, not the ones you get over to the Walmart! Also have a magnifier but still can't see! Some day you will get old too! I also just downed a few slabs of peanut brittle, some chocolate covered almonds, a glass of ginger ale and some apple cider (soft) so my sugar is up a wee bit and the eyes are maybe rolling a touch too!
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G: There used to be a small show at a community museum in Brougham [Oshawa area] many years ago. Some of our club members including ourselves would make the trek there for a day outing. Fox was from that area and the Waterloo would always be at the show. The last time our family was there, Bish climbed aboard the Waterloo, grabbed the steering wheel, cranked hard one way and snapped the front pedestal when the barrel snagged the rubber on the front wheels and tried to climb up and over, barrel dropped down on the front axle. We have a pic of the damage at home in a photo album.

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A couple more before I go out and face the day!
A Robert Bell owned by Wallace Stapely. Not sure of hp but it has nice high wheels - good looking outfit!
And don't know a thing about the car; but it is a dandy!
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...need my reading glasses??? I'd be glad to send you a pair for Christmas....especially if you keep posting these great pictures!

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Beth: I believe that comment belongs in the "Christmas Bribery" thread that Craig started. If I were you Onkle G., I'd hold out for chocolate.

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Robert,

You may have a point there , but there may be an outpouring of reading glasses (I think a pair of "cat eyes glasses in leopard print with the rhinestones would be fabulous!)...but then someone would have to get a mug shot....

I like the Robert Bell photo. It looks odd with that big single cylinder, nice drivers and small front wheels....compared to my 24 Port Huron! I sure do like the nice drivers.

Merry Christmas!!

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the bell is a cut down compound and was oned by Doug Staply
Wallys brouther
and Beth thats why the cylinder looks huge if you look close you can see the casting has bin cut by the shape of the cylinder head in sterling museum now i heard
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Thanks Todd,

After having mine, it just doesn't look like it "flows...." What size is it? Is that a lap or butt boiler?

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that robet bell sure is sharp did it end up going to country heritage park?
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And a couple more. The Model T assembly team! Not sure what the record time was but perhaps one of the older () attendees like Robert bin Sawyer will have that data? I have not seen this done for years but it was a lot of fun to watch them build this car from piles and drive away in a few short minutes! Who are all those guys anyway?
The Stars and Stripes is visible but the Canadian flag is "furled" so not sure if it is the Maple Leaf or the earlier Red Ensign as that would help date these a little better?
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These guys travelled all over North America with the T. Porky,Jack Bray and Jack Morton were also part of the team. I'll ask Dad for the rest. The second generation did try and fill their Dad's shoes for awhile but I haven't seen them do there stuff for a while now.

Rick...thanks for the memories, I love seeing the pictures of the early shows!
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