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Old 02-17-2018, 02:47:23 PM
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Jeff, Notice that that side of the flywheel don't have the bosses to support a pulley anyway? I'm surprise with all the OTTOs at Rollag you don't have one of these flywheels (or maybe you do?)
I did notice that it didn't have the pulley bosses. And no, we don't have any with flywheels with the built in pulley. But we could make room for these if you find them.

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As I expand the 2nd picture the details get really fuzzy but it looks like one still has the belt driven oiler but the other one has been converted to a large drip oiler (but not a traditional Lonergans). So very hard to tell. Very interesting homemade splash guards. And we have pails like the one in the background hanging off ours to catch the oil from the crankcase.
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This RPPC sold in a local auction over the weekend. Auctioneer estimated it to be from around 1919. It was the storefront of a local dealer of Harley Davidson and Pope motorcycles. In the window under the Pope logo is a small gas engine of probably 1.5-2 hp size. No, it did not end up in our humble collection.
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Bonjour

For Wayne, an Otto engine flame ignition. The postcard was sent in 1903.



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Old 02-21-2018, 07:12:15 AM
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François, Great Photo !!!
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Coulson engine made in Melbourne Vic
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Another Coulson with Simplex Oil Engine painted on the transport.
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:37:06 AM
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Here is an 1892 photo of a small Regan engine being tested along with one of its data sheets. The catalog cut shows the style engine in the photo although the one in the test was running on coal gas rather than a surface carb.
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I ran the pic through photoshop.
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I like the grocery scale for the brake. The efficiency of the engine is pretty poor.
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Old 02-24-2018, 10:08:41 AM
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Here is an image from an 1894 Nash two stroke engine test (same test cell as the Regan from my earlier post). I can not make out from the image if this is the earlier flame ignition style or hot tube version.
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I waved the Adobe pixel dust over the image. Don't know if it will help identifying the ignition.
If I expand the image much it'll get all fuzzy.
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Old 02-24-2018, 10:32:49 PM
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I should have looked through the 100+ page thesis a little closer. A detailed image (Taken from G. D. Hiscox) of the engine with the flame ignition valve and description was given. To the best of my knowledge only one incomplete engine of this type survive today.
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Here are a couple from the west coast. The first is in Bakersfield I believe. The other is from the Pan American Expo in 1915
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I think this might be the earliest photo of serial number 1 Otto & Langen engine. It looks like it has the original flywheel on it which is mounted on the right instead of the way it is now which is on the left. Also the exhaust check valve is present. It looks like the octagon base under it now is not original. Next to it is I believe engine number 2643 which was sectioned at some point and still survives. The image comes from a 1921 book on the history of German industry. The title is Beiträge zur Geschichte der Technik und Industrie.
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Bill here is another early image of SN 1. Not sure when it was taken, but comes from a 1909 article written about the "Historic Deutz Engine Collection" by H. Neumann.
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Wayne, I wonder what happened to the check valve that used to be on it.
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Bill, Good question about the check valve. It was lost sometime after the incorrect flywheel was put on it ( after WWII). Here are some other Images I have of it through the years.
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This is an image that predates 1900. I presume it represents the condition of it shortly after Deutz bought it back form the original shop in Paris they sold it to. As published in Guldner and a couple other early texts, this exact image was printed in the mirror image (shown first). I flipped the image in the second view to show the correct orientation. Even at the Technikum in Germany they have this image blown up full size on the wall (and have it backwards as well).
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Correct orientation.
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Undated image (Post WWII ???) Shown with the wrong flywheel but still retaining the discharge check valve.
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SN1 set up in running condition at the then newly formed museum at Deutz (1960's celebrating 100 years of the company)
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Here is another early view of the Deutz museum.
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Bonjour les amis
Some old postcards with Crossley engines.









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Here is a girl about to wash clothes with a Mogul Junior.
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