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IHC 6 Hp Famous Full Restoration


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Old 01-08-2011, 10:43:08 PM
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Default IHC 6 Hp Famous Full Restoration

Look what showed up for a full restoration today. Serial number 543 and looks to be on original cart but it looks like it is backwards. I am in need of a fuel pump, carborator, water pump, new fuel tank and cooling screen. This should be a fun project and we will be documenting the progress of the restoration with pictures here on Harry's. Any help with finding parts will be very much appreciated.

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Old 01-08-2011, 11:45:15 PM
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Default Re: 6 Hp IHC Famous

Bob, looks like it HAS the rotary water pump.
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Old 01-09-2011, 11:13:48 AM
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Bob,

A lot of engines were sold as saw rigs in which case the engine was put on "backwards" like yours. I suspect your engine was a saw rig outfit at one time and whoever cut the wagon down to reduce it's length. The way you can tell is the front bolster. If you could post a close up of the front axle we could tell for sure. Also, it looks as though you have some form of water pump in between the flywheels next to the engine base. Three different water pumps were used on the 6hp depending on its age. The earliest was a centrigual water pump, then they went to a piston arrangement then a gear pump. Give us the full serial number with letter prefix and we'll be able to give you an age which will give a clue as to what water pump it originally had. IHC supplied two different types of water cooling tank, also depending on age. The other parts will be a little difficult to find but a lot of guys have them or are making reproductions. Good luck and nice engine!
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Default Re: 6 Hp IHC Famous

Sn. JB543, We have the original screen cooler but it is in poor shape. I also got a 2nd water pump with the engine but it is different than the one on the engine. The one on the engine is a gear pump.
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Old 01-09-2011, 07:41:40 PM
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Default Re: 6 Hp IHC Famous

Here are waterpump and front axel pictures
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Old 01-09-2011, 08:59:17 PM
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Default Re: 6 Hp IHC Famous

The front bolster is for the portable and not a saw rig so someone just placed the engine backwards. Again, nice project engine!

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Old 01-09-2011, 10:47:05 PM
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Hi , I checked the letter code in the book and JB comes up mounting engine so it may have never come on the cart. It's a 1907 so I would think that it would have had a tray cooler tank.It also has a Webster setup so that may be a retro fit added later.Sometimes a couple of neighbors had similar engines and when 1 conked out the two were assebled into 1 working unit. Still a nice project.keep us posted. Rob
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Rob's right about the water tank, it would have had what they call a "tray" cooled tank. The only one I saw for sale was on ebay a year or so ago and it went for around 800.00 but it was an original in good shape. It's going to be expensive to make, lots of trays in the interior. I happen to like the screen cooled tanks better; spectators ask a lot of questions when they see the water going over the screen whereas with a tray cooled model you don't see any water. Your engine would have also had the centrifigual water pump which is hard to come by. I would recommend going with the gear pump. I think someone has reproduced those. Maybe Rob knows who has them. The clutch pulley would also be different, again harder to come by but there around. I have attached a photo of a JB242 I fixed up a couple of years ago.

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Old 01-11-2011, 08:35:43 PM
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I think Don Oberholtzer made that gear pump. He is a sponser here check with him.Rob
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Got back to work on this last night and remover the engine form the cart. Looks like the cart was shortened up buy not sure. Dose any one know how long the rails should be for a portable cart? I also need a fuel pump and a carb for this engine anyone have them or castings for them? I will be taking the engine apart tonight as the head had been welded before and needs to be cleaned up and a valve job done. Then all the paint will be removed and repainted as there is none of the original paint left. Hope to post photos of the tear down tomorrow.
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:06:25 AM
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We started at 3pm this afternoon and with the engine completely apart by 8:30pm.
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The cart is completely disassembled, the rails where cut off 3 1/2 inches and they were turned around. This is why the engine was on backwards. This is a very easy fix.
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The head cylinder and piston went to Eric's shop so he can work with magic.
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I beat you did not think I was that young? ha ha this is my son Ben helping with this engine
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from a secret location purportedly for an 8 HP famous and believed to be a reliable source
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Default Re: IHC 6 Hp Famous

That looks like a real good find!

We have a later 6hp Portable J2851E which I think is about 1916/18. When abouts did they add the speed control lever behind the carb and what mechanism do the earlier models have?

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Bturney,

Yes that does look very much like a 8hp IHC tray cooler. Nice, so what are you waiting for...

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I would like have that tank for my 8hp
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Was at it again today and got the cart, base and flywheels sand blasted along with 2 gas pumps that I am also restoring. Have to go back to work on Friday so I hope to get the cart in primer tomorrow so I can paint it next weekend. That tray cooler would be cool but allready have a screen cooler and gas tank on the way from John Wanat. Photos tomorrow I hope.
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Wow I cant belive its been over 2 years but it almost done! Just got all the wood done tonight. Will varnish it tomorrow. Then all thats left is exhaust and plumbing. Have it running real slow and sounds great.
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