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Old 11-10-2010, 04:08:10 PM
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Hi all

I have always been interested in metalworking equipment and since a few years I am especially looking for hand driven machines. Got a couple of treadle lathes and a foot powered bandsaw, and last month I picked up this little shaper. Can anyone identify it?

If anyone has hand driven equipment, feel free to post pictures in this thread!

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Some tiny machines could be setup either for hand operation or belt drive. The first pic is one such. It would be very rare for a machine this size or larger not to have some option or provision for power drive. I think this was made by Baldwin. The pulleys were removed to use the hand crank. Or the crank was removed to use the belt.

Second is smaller machine and is one of the exceptions in being hand powered only. Resembles a Wheeler in style, but maker unknown.

I had a pair of Boynton and Plumber shapers. I sold both of those and cannot find any photos. That could be hand driven (as an option) but the handles were always removed and the belt pulleys used. Those look a lot like yours. I think I have a pic of a friends machine, I may post that.

Ken Cope published two books. One covered human power machines and another that included small (and large) planers and shapers.
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Here is a Boynton and Plumber, looks like yours is missing the pulleys. You need a copies of all of ken Copes books on antique machinery. I better clarify, This pic is a Boynton, it would predate yours. But you get the idea. They were made in Worcester Mass USA. I dont see to many of these around here. I am surprised to see one in Belgium! I might have a catalog or copy around here. I would have to look.

Here is a link to Amazon, Copes shaper planer book. Note the cover!

http://www.amazon.com/American-Plane...9426653&sr=1-1

Another must own:

http://www.amazon.com/American-Lathe...ref=pd_sim_b_1

and 3rd recommendation:

http://www.amazon.com/American-Foot-...t_at_ep_dpt_10

I own all of Kens books. You can find a page on Amazon dedicated to Ken.

Edit: I found another. This one is a Boynton and Plumber. The legs were option, it could be purchased as a bench top machine.

2nd Edit: After looking at your pics more, I see this is a bigger machine than I first though. I think this is a bigger capacity Boynton and Plumber? They did make a wide variety of sizes. I do highly recommend Copes books, even though they cover American (USA) machinery. I dont know .... it looks like you are standing over it? Maybe you could post more pictures and something for scale.
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Thank you for this useful information, Peter! The shapers in your 2nd post do show some similarities with mine. I found it in France, some 500 miles from my place. The pulley may be missing but ther is no keyway on the shaft. There is a handle on the flywheel which is about 20" diameter. Total height is about 4'. I'll make a picture with someone turning the wheel.
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Cope has one page of illustrations for Boynton and Plumber. They built these for 30 or 40years in several sizes. Attached below. They look very similar, but I guess this is not a positive ID. I am starting to notice some differences. I suppose it was likely made in Europe. Are the bolts metric?

The handles on the B&P flywheels were usually removed for safety reasons.

It would be helpful for identification, too take a series of photos: front,sides,back and post those as well.
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Hi Folks, I came across this forum whilst Googling for info on a 6 inch Boynton shaper that I've just acquired in UK. It's the hand/powered option with the handle. It seems complete apart from the vice - where do they all go? Interestingly most seem to be made by Boynton and Plumber whereas this one is badged as 'E N Boynton Maker Worcester Mass' so presumably is an earlier model? It seems in reasonable working order although I've not yet used it as I haven't made up a vice yet. Has anyone got pictures/drawings of the original vice? Any help/advice much appreciated.
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Swarf maker, they all came with handles, but the owner would generally remove the handle. If you set up the machine on the belt the handle is an accident waiting to happen. IMHO, almost no body ran these by hand. I think 99% of the users would run these of a belt. The hand wheel might be handy for setup but that little handle is more often gone than the vise. Can you image standing next to that machine with the handle whipping around at 200 rpm? Ouch! It would make a nice display, for fun, to crank it by hand and shave a few thou off a piece of brass.

I posted two photos of a Boynton (like yours), that machine has the vise on it. You are right, that is the early (rare) machine that predated the Boynton and Plumber. I had a B&P with a vise, but I cannot find more photos. My 3rd photo, (outdoors) is one of the Boynton and Plumbers I used to own.

I have a small catalog, If you want a copy and can compensate for time and effort and postage I could make a copy for you.

I recommend for you as well as Marcel: get some of Ken Copes books. He might even have the dates for Boynton.

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