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Any and all info needed on Sandwich Pine Tree Milker Engine


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Old 05-10-2006, 10:16:54 AM
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Question Any and all info needed on Sandwich Pine Tree Milker Engine

Ok, so I just got this vacuum engine and would like to find out more about it. Information seems pretty scarce on it. Found a picture on the web from Coolspring, and a reference in an old article, but that's about it. Did Sandwich make these engines? One article kind of suggested that Taylor designed these and had them built before they did their own. Like I said, I know very little about it, so any and all help is greatly appreciated - pictures, parts, descriptions, copies of manuals, etc. It is not running, but shouldn't take much to get it going. Thanks for any and all help. Thanks, Harry.
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Is it perhaps a Taylor Vacuum Engine?
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No sir, it is not. Here is a picture of it.



Here is a picture I found on the web of a restored one at Coolspring:

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Wow, I never knew these existed! That's an unusual looking engine. Thanks!
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Wow, I never knew these existed! That's an unusual looking engine. Thanks!
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Me either until I got one!
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Default Re: Any and all info needed on Sandwich Pine Tree Milker Engine

The vacuum gage looka a lot like the Surge gage that I once had. It also looks like they used the hopper water for washing equipment. Here's a look at another similar setup. Click the two links at the bottom of the next page. http://old-engine.com/delaval.htm

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This is one of the very first engines I bought when I started collecting engines. I was young and uneducated about the value of original condition engines at that time, and I painted over the original paint and striping but I painted around the decals and left them intact.
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Here is a shot of the decal. The picture quality isn't the greatest. The cow is actually looking at the milker unit on the decal. Pine Tree Milking Machine Company was actually the forerunner of Surge.
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Farmall:
Yes, the Pine Tree Milker was built by Sandwich. On my registry list, I have 16 Pine Tree uprights, 1 Experimental, a Model T Sandwich with a vacuum pump added, serial No. E, and a 3 hp. Horizonal! Would appreciate your serial number to add to the list. Hope to have several at our Show here in June when we feature Sandwich & New Idea engines & Equipment. Come & join the fun.

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Well- it looks as if my previously posted pictures turned out a bit blurred and not so sharp so I will try to describe the decal. There is a pine tree with a cow in front of the tree. The cow has a milker unit attached to it's udders, and the cow has it's head turned down toward the milker unit and is supposed to be looking at the milker unit. Under the picture is the statement "The Cow's Adopted Child". I always get a kick out of that statement. I'll see if I can sharpen up the picture and post it again later. I learned from experience that you don't want to put your hand over the vacuum pipe when the engine is running. It has a tremendous amount of suction to it. (Or should I say- It really sucks!!! )
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Thanks for info and great help! Keep it coming....
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Pine Tree Milker Company was started by the Babson Brothers, and became the Surge Milker Company. The Pine Tree Engine was developed off the "T" which used a Model "T" piston & Rod and developed 1 1/2 hp. The Milker engine was rated at 2 hp., and the water hopper was used to heat water to wash the milker when you got done milking as thye trottle governed engine would heat the water very well!
Electricty made it a lot easier to get started in the morning because the cows don't like to wait while you crank on a cold engine that could be rather tempramental.
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Default Re: Any and all info needed on Sandwich Pine Tree Milker Engine

"Pine tree milker?"
My, that would take some strong hands! Why would you want to?
No wonder they used an engine to do it.
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HI
If you need the orignal vacum tank that has the name embossed in the tank contact me I have one in excellent condition. Todd
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Again, thanks for all the help....if anything else can contribute, please do. I have learned alot. Thanks, Harry, as well.
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Farmall:
Yes, the Pine Tree Milker was built by Sandwich. On my registry list, I have 16 Pine Tree uprights, 1 Experimental, a Model T Sandwich with a vacuum pump added, serial No. E, and a 3 hp. Horizonal! Would appreciate your serial number to add to the list. Hope to have several at our Show here in June when we feature Sandwich & New Idea engines & Equipment. Come & join the fun.

Ray
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I just bought V1170 at auction. It is nearly original. Missing valve cover. Fuel tank probably not original & I suspect the vacuum exhaust casting not original, either. I'd appreciate getting a copy (original or photocopy) of the parts manual. Can you help? Thx, Fred Cleveland, Montpelier, VT 802-229-9841
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