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David Bradley rider, tell me more about it


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I got this today. Appears to have been gold in color.
No engine. The center lever is either very stiff or froze.
A friend has 1 similar or the same,I aint compared them side by side yet.He said it uses a 14 Briggs.
I can not determine what held up the back of the hood either.
91760601 is the number on the plate.
The dang rear wheels will not turn,you can not push or pull. They will turn opposite directions if you turn the pulley. Wound up dragging it on the trailer and having to really struggle using ramps and my sore back to get it on the truck.
I would think you should be able to push it?
Also, what type of hitch fits on the back? 1 broke bolt but I think I can remove it.
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You have the remains of a Suburban 725. We had a later version at one time. The rear hood mount was attached to the motor cyl head and the hood hinged forward. They used a Briggs of 7.25 hp, ours had the recoil rope start but they were available with the starter/ generator system. Yours has the brakes on the rear axle ours had it elsewhere but I don't recall just now but it had a foot pedal on it. The thing has a variable speed belt sheave instead of a gear trans. There should be a small disc clutch on the reduction gear. It was a good unit for the time but you had to use severe service belts and have every thing properly adjusted for it to perform satisfactory, They were available with a full line of garden implements.
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Thanks for the information.
Is there ratchets on the rear hubs or something? I guess now that I know what it is I can google it.
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I found several pages on the net,1959 is apparently the year. Found this 2. Hope I can get the diagrams to open up. Slow connection.
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/mode...7/1509200.html

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No there's no ratchets in the axle assy, the tractor has a reverse belt on the rear reduction gear so a ratchet can't work and still have reverse drive. There is a differential unit in that gearbox. The most difficult issue will be the front variable speed pulley and the drive pulley on the engine as they aren't the common off the shelf spares.
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Above info is for a later tractor. You have a 1959 5.75 hp tractor. The tractors will not roll very easily, and basically have to be dragged. it is the design of the differential. The manuals and a lot of info are on the net if you google the 917 number. I have a 614, same tractor just a later year.
The center lever is your forward reverse clutch, look underneath and you will see the plate that needs to be freed up to make it work.
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Yes the tractor in the photos is the earlier version. The main changes in the later version would be the size motor and the hood is a bit different shape. As in all things every newer version required more power! These little riders were using motors in the 5 to 7 hp range just fine, my last rider now has a 25 hp motor just to mow the same grass! Ours was a 63 model iirc, been a long time since we traded it off for small utility tractor. The basic chassis is the same and all the implements will fit all versions. The line of implements was very extensive and would make for a terrific collection in it's own rite. I don't believe any other line offered any where near as many different accessories for their line.
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I bought a 61 DB in about the same condition where everything was seized up. Started oiling up the clutch assembly and it started to free up. With a new set of rear tires it rolls smoothly though the clutch won't disengage.
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Well how is this for a belt guard?
I still have 1 sorda of a slot to cut in the bottom of it and I am not comfortable with the looks of the clutch lever bracket on the 1 I copied,so I left metal there for grinding and cutting off to be correct.If someone has a pic of that angle iron bracket that holds the clutch lever,I would like to see the slot that holds the lever..I am thinking this 1 I borrowed is broke off on 1 end.
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I think there was a notch in that clutch lever bracket that held the lever in the neutral position. The lever itself had a bit of spring pressure that held it against the bracket. The one you copied isn't broken off, just worn down from the lever rubbing it.
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Well I started on the hood and grill. It has been soaking in the electrolosis bucket for over a week .It had been brazed on and I had to take all that apart by some grinding and cutting and heated the remaining brass with the torch and pryed it apart.Was able to retain everything and the actuall damage they tried to fix on both sides was very minor.But they put enough brass on it to make a trumpet.
The broke bars in the grill have been replaced as they were missing in action.
It is coming along.I think I will weldup and repair the steering stuff tommorow and finish repairing the sheet metal portion of the hood.
While we have this great weather I am able to work with the doors open for good ventialation while welding.
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I have not worked on this for a while but put it back on the hook hanging like a dead cow at the butcher shop so i can mess with that clutch plate over the weekend. When I felt alot of play in the steering I thought metal would be worn out. WRONG. There appears to have been a felt type spacer or something of that sort in between the pins and brackets that is rotten and allowing the parts to be sloppy.
I will do some looking around but I thought I would ask for ideas on how you all fix that.
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