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1910 Sears "H" Timer Help Needed


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Default 1910 Sears "H" Timer Help Needed

Hey there,

I have a 1910 Sears model "H" which the timer is missing. I'm trying to duplicate the original from a drawing, but I'm having a hard time with the actual dimensions for the plate to locate the spark wheels and exactly where the advance-retard stops need to be. Does someone out there by chance have a either a spare timer they would part with, or have one in which they would be willing to make a tracing of the timer plate? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Someone here should be able to help you. https://forums.aaca.org/topic/123692...k-motor-buggy/
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Place a wanted ad on the hcca.org site. It is free. Go to home site and click on "club store & classifed advertising", then click on "classified advertising", then click on "place an ad". Good luck!

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Place a free wanted ad on hcca.org by clicking on "club store & advertising", then click on "classified advertising", then click on "place an ad". Good Luck!
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I can maybe help you out. I have my 1909 Sears torn down now and can give you some good photos and dimensions but, I need to know what engine you have. There are three versions of the Sears engine with the timer and cam cover being different on all three. You're welcome to contact me via the SmokStak's E-mail link and I'll send you the information/photos directly or I can also post them here on the forum. Let me know what you have and I'll see if I can give you the information you're looking for. There is also the SEARS owner registry and there may be someone near you that can also help you out.
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Hi Roger, I sent an e-mail to you through this forum, but will post the photos of my engine here, as I was not able to send them to you on the email link. I'm hoping the timer plate I need will be the same as what you have.
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Thanks could you list the 3 different types of engines ours has like you show in the text.
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Tomorrow I'll get some photos and information posted of the three different engine designs used by Sears. In the mean time, the engine Les posted above is the second version and it was used in a majority of the Sears cars built.
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The first style Sears 1908/09 engines had a rating of 10HP but were built too light and had a high failure rate do to a very weak crankcase that was only a little over 1/4" thick. I'm sure there are a few more out there, but the one in the first photo below and the one in my car are the only two I know of. The cylinders are directly cross from each other and the connecting rods were offset (bent?) to match the crankshaft as shown in the next photo. The second style, which seems to have been in production from late 1909 through 1911 and was a beefed up version (now rated 14HP) with slight design modifications and is the version found in most of the existing Sear Motor Buggy's. This is the type that is in Les's car and proved to be quite successful and like the first version, they were built by the Reeves Co. for Sears. The 3rd & 4th photos show that style engine in a Sears I restored for the Van Horn Truck Museum. The third/last version is shown in the last photo. It was a complete redesign with the cylinders now offset (no more bent connecting rods), the timer and a full length camshaft on top of the engine, different intake and cylinder design, and many other changes. This is a very strong and well built engine for the period and was manufactured for Sears by the Lincoln Motor company.

There is a webpage for the Sear Motor Buggy ( http://searsmotorbuggy.com/ ) and it has a lot of content . . . the only problem is that it hasn't been up-dated for almost ten years and doesn't have some of the newer history/information that has been learned.
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