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Hart-Parr 18-36 purchase looks to be a go!


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Default Re: Hart-Parr 18-36 purchase looks to be a go!

Here is the Goodison finding aid from the Lambton County Museum. I had good luck with the staff a few years back doing an article on Goodison for Brenda Stant's excellent Engineers & Engines magazine. Maybe not much on H-P.
They have an excellent museum at Grand Bend. You might want to ask for a volunteer named Jeremy to see the equipment.
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Congrats on getting the tractor
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I printed out the manual as it was a pain to read on my phone... I probably shouldn’t complain but darn, seems I’m falling apart in this last year! I find I need reading glasses suddenly, took a sleep study and required CPAP machine, the doctor filled the prescription for the CPAP, then while chatting asked if I had a wife/girlfriend... she then out of the blue hands me another prescription for cialis... I just turned 40


So thinking of plans for the Hart Parr when she arrives, just wondering what you guys opinions are on how a tractor in this condition should be cared for. I dont think restoration of this tractor would be in it’s interst as it’s very original, but what about any cleaning? Also what about working her after some checks are made to be sure she’s mechanically sound? I don’t have much to load her down with at the moment other than my GSM cross cut saw which is nothing for this beast... there is a fellow on the island with a pile of old implements, I was going to go have a look for an appropriate plough for her. There is a tractor club which ploughs every fall locally, would you shy away from working her in this manner or no?
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:05:30 PM
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Run it, work it and enjoy it. It will be a pretty indestructible tractor, make sure there’s no knocks in it and that the governors in good shape. You’ll be pulling potato diggers with it next fall. I bet somewhere on that island will be an old rock crusher, that’s what you need.
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No rocks to crush on the island! All sand stone, all our stone and aggregates are brought in from out of province. I’ve actually hauled stone from lower cove NL into Chtown and Summerside a few times.

I’m told one of the last times the tractor was to a show it spent the day powering the saw mill so it has been worked on the belt, I don’t think my uncle ever had any towed implements for it though. I do enjoy seeing things do what they were intended to do also, we had a blast blocking some fire wood with the old Fairbanks earlier this year, OHSA be damned!
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Angry sailor what ship are you on?http://www.n8dnx.org/live-ship-tracking/
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Algoma Innovator, we’re in”Tunder Bay” b’y! Looks like we’ll be here till Saturday. The terminal doesn’t have all our cargo. Waiting for a train from a potash mine in Sask. I believe.

Here’s a couple pics, hit a little weather on Lake Huron this trip, nothing too bad, and some pics of the main engine, first pic top left there’s a spare piston and liner, cylinder head and exhaust valve just to the right of those. She’s a Wätsillä (Sulzer) 5RT-Flex50-D, the baby brother of the largest diesel in the world, the 14RT-flex96c (37.8” bore!) that powers Emma Maersk (~110,000) hp Our Bore is 50cm (19.6”) stroke is 205cm (80.7”) she burns HFO380 at a rate of approx a metric ton/hour full away.
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Very cool sir. Thank you, I grew up with a lot of respect for the lake boats, too many people don’t even know their out there. Years ago it was always a family fall trip up to Collingwood to see what boat was being built in the ship yard. I hope the fall sailing stays good for you, good luck.

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Thanks! Collingwood built good ships, I’ve sailed on many built there. Shame they’re built overseas now. China ships are a mess, they lost the contracts. This one was built in Croatia and seems of better build quality. I do miss the older ships though. Spent the last couple years on an oldie built in 1943 and still going strong.
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We head 4 hrs northwest to see the lake boats come in/depart Duluth as often as we can.
Always wondering about you folks too. Neat pics of the ship!
Can't wait to see pics of the 18-36 coming home too.
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Thanks! Collingwood built good ships, I’ve sailed on many built there. Shame they’re built overseas now. China ships are a mess, they lost the contracts. This one was built in Croatia and seems of better build quality. I do miss the older ships though. Spent the last couple years on an oldie built in 1943 and still going strong.
Thanks for the pics! One of our family hobbies is chasing the freighters. (especially the classics) It's a shame that Frontenac is the only remaining of the Davies QC built sisters. The 'Rail isn't recognizable anymore down at Pt. Colborne either. We made a special trip to go to the Welland Canal to see Algomarine on her final passage. Since that day we grew to be close friends with the Chief.
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Tadousac is still out there.
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Absolutely. Nice to see her on the river too.
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Does anyone know the overall width of an 18-36 with the extended rims? Looking into trucking her east, need to make sure she fits in the trailer and I’m not able to measure it right now...
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With 7" extensions it's 7' 5" wide.
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I’ll put a plug in for Owatrol.There are cheaper home brews that you can make,but Owatrol works really well.I’ve used WD40 in a pinch.
Rub it down with whatever you chose,and watch the original lettering come to life!
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I’m still out on the lakes right now but have been looking into transport. Looks like I’ve got a 53’ rig lined up to haul the Hart Parr and as many Fordsons as I can fit on it. Should be happening around the end of October if all goes as planned, hopefully the weather back home give a couple decent days to play with the Hart Parr outside

Anyone have a good source for flat belts? Only one I have is a bit short tractor use.

Here’s a couple pics of the mess I’m into today. Both our main ballast pumps are busted. This one actually spit out the intermediate shaft. Problem started when the thrust bearing failed and allowed the impeller to drop and bind in the housing. Hard to get a size reference from the pics but the electric motor is 375hp...
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Anyone have a good source for flat belts?
www.albinoindustrialbelting.com
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Sailor,
These folks are in Cambridge, Ontario and are an old company. I believe they will have belting of all kinds:

https://www.yellowpages.ca/bus/Ontar...s/2348125.html

Then there is Rubberline. They have several locations:

http://rubberline.com/
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What a couple of busy days! Both our main ballast pumps failed, one locked up solid and the other needed a bandaid to finish a load before making repairs on both. The problem is that the impeller is supported axially by a single ball bearing which failed allowing the impeller to drop and bind in the housing. Had to replace both shafts and impellers, all the wear rings in the housings, mechanical seals, bushings/bearings and a bunch of machining to repair the damaged couplings. The motor had to go up 4 decks and ashore for repairs also. These are pretty big pumps, the motor is ~400hp and the capacity is over 500,000 US gal/hr. The overtime will cover the transport for the Hart Parr though!

I’ve found a company for hire with a 53’ low deck flat bed who will be hauling as many tractors as I can fit on her. Looks like I’ll be home first week of November and the truck will be scheduled to arrive about the same time.

I’m planning to send the Hart Parr and as many Fordsons as will fit. We may consider removing the front axles with the wheels from the Fordsons if this will reduce their overall length to under 102” this would allow them to load sideways on the deck... have to have some measurements taken... At the least we should get the Hart Parr and four Fordsons if they go lengthwise. I’m trying to get all the steel wheeled tractors on the flat bed then I have a guy with a reefer who will take anything on rubber... quick count of my stuff and my fathers is 14 tractors to ship
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