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Fairbanks Morse Single Cylinder Tractor Project


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Old 11-03-2012, 07:48:39 PM
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The rear wheels and ex. rims are on thier way to Pa. to be re-rimed and respoked.Hope to have them back by the end of this year to put on the new frame we are having made . The ex. rims are held onto the main wheels at 5 points per wheel by 2 flat straps at each point one on the outside and one on the inside . As luck would have it there was 1 set of straps that was still on the ex. rims that will make a great pattern! We almost missed them til we beat some of the rust off them. We didn't want to beat them too much or there wouldn't have been anything left! Wendell Kelch
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Old 11-04-2012, 05:33:31 PM
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Hi Folks

A couple of pictures of Wendell loading the wheels ready for the trip.

As always it's a GREAT TIME stopping in to visit with Wendell and to see what's new at the shop.

The Fairbanks is going to be a wonderful tractor when completed, but the journey in restoring this tractor is going to be a once in a lifetime experience and when it's all done it should make for one heck of a story. It's certainly at the right place for it's restoration. The potential for another "Treasure In The Tree " when it all unfolds maybe?

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Old 11-04-2012, 06:34:22 PM
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We got the cylinder blasted out today. There is a lot of pitting in there. I am going to turn it up on end tomorrow and put some soaking stuff in there and see what comes out the bottom. Hopefully that 5 gal of oil put in there years ago will help us out . Wendell Kelch
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:33:52 PM
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Sorry for the delay updatine this post. I THINK we are making headway. I saw the connecting rod was wet this morning! The fluid had seeped all the way down past the piston and was dripping off the rod. I am trying a NEW TRICK on taking rusted pistons out! A very good friend who has been in engines a lot longer then me told me this trick. Put BRAKE FLUID in the cylinder LIGHT IT !! The fire will warm the jug and make the brake fluid HOT and THIN and it will seep past the piston. We are on day 3 now and on our 3rd gallon of brake fluid. I gave the brake fluid a little help with a propane weed burner to help warm the jug. After the fire goes out I pour more brake fluid in the cylinder and let it sizzle and smoke and the next morning it is cold and I do it again. If it loosens this piston after 90 years along the gulf I think I am going to be a believer!! The wet at the bottom of the piston gives me hope! Wendell Kelch
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:41:22 PM
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It would be my guess that water, mud,grease and who knows what else has been laying in the bottom of this engine for quite a while!(90 years) It sure looks better after a good blasting! Wendell Kelch
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:45:57 PM
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Here is some more PRETTY parts! THe gear and the ex. manifold are going to need a little help! Wendell Kelch
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse Single Cylinder Tractor Project

Wendell:

From the looks of it, you should be able to move the piston with a big hydraulic press. BE SURE to make a thick steel disk that is slightly smaller than the piston diameter to push against.

If you don't, you could break out the head of the piston.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:57:34 PM
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Wendell:

From the looks of it, you should be able to move the piston with a big hydraulic press. BE SURE to make a thick steel disk that is slightly smaller than the piston diameter to push against.

If you don't, you could break out the head of the piston.
Good suggestion. Probably undercut the middle of the thick steel disk on the side that pushed against the piston. This will make sure the forces push on the pistons outer wall and not the center of the piston. Great work so far Wendell.

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Old 11-13-2012, 11:51:48 PM
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We got the piston out of the cylinder tonight. It took everything we had. A big puller putting pressure on the piston, Cylinder upside down and the piston packed with dry ice, and a big torch warming up the cylinder. It didn't come easy. It fought me all the way to the end. It is out now and I can get the cylinder bored. I am glad to see it laying on the ground. Wendell Kelch
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Default Re: Fairbanks Morse Single Cylinder Tractor Project

Great work Wendell,

We are very scared with bringing pressure on the cilinder and piston with our Hart Parr or other tractors.

Worked with heat it up 5 times.

The first time an quarter.

Second day an half our.

Thirt day 3 quarter.

Fourth day one hour.

Fifth day one hour and an quarter and then it came lose.


The second week after have build somekind of wooden bridge to pull it out of the running section.

Keep posting.

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Wendell,
I was wondering how that front axle looked after getting off the truck from Canuckland? It's amazing that the gentleman messaged about it.

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We got the piston off the Rod today. We got the rings off and the piston cleaned up and it looks great! All cleaned up with no rings it weighs 96Lbs! It is a 10.5 inch bore. The piston and the cylinder is heading to the machine shop tomorrow to get started with the boring and sleeving. The piston rings tell me that this tractor had a bunch of run time on it with them so thin on one side. They are stepped,pinned rings. The wrist pin is also stepped like a E or F Rumely. Wendell Kelch
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Wendell,
It was common for piston rings to be made eccentric, they were made thinner at the gap so the ring would compress evenly all the way around the ring.
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The first part got painted today. The crankcase! It is still wet and is under 64 flooresant lights so the color will be a little different when it is outside. The Fairbanks project seems to be going well so far. Wendell Kelch
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Wendell, I hope you meant crankcase! Crackcase conjures up all sorts of bad images of a cast iron item!
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Sorry about that ! My spelling and typing just gets me by!
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:33:29 PM
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Amazing sometimes what a good morale booster a little bit of paint can be on a project!

Looking good, looking good!

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It was common for piston rings to be made eccentric, they were made thinner at the gap so the ring would compress evenly all the way around the ring.
Another way they made the pressure the same all the way around was to take the machined ring and peen the inside diameter at intervals close together opposite the gap and farther apart toward the ends to make it eccentric. You could see the little peen marks on the ID. A ring which is circular when it is free will not have uniform pressure all around it in the cylinder.
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We moved the crankcase out of the paint shop to the holding area to wait on the frame.
My Machinist brought the mixer back today. It is ready to be installed . Everything came right out of the mixer. Some of the fuel screws was rusted off or nearly off but after building them up they screwed right out. There have been very few things that have not came right out.
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I would be interested to know where you get piston rings for something this big!
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