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Tractors By Goold, Shapley & Muir


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Old 10-29-2016, 03:09:15 PM
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Gilbert,
Here are some pictures - the best I could do as it is a very dark and crowded spot. You can see the pump from both sides with delivery tube to back of crankcase. Also the drive case off camshaft and drop shaft.
As for pipe inside motor, I forget now how it is secured in there. You know, I seem to remember it simply being wired in place? That fitting between the cylinders in for a sight glass. There should be a cork float device inside the crankcase with a thin rod that protrudes up into a sight glass to show your oil level.
Craig - tractor looks different with canopy - taken about 12 minutes ago! Tractor also looks better without me on it!
Cheers men,
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Another picture of the 24-12 or 12-24 Beaver from the OAM/CHP collection in Milton Ontario and formerly the mannen collection of Lynden Ontario
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Gilbert,
Here are some pictures - the best I could do as it is a very dark and crowded spot. You can see the pump from both sides with delivery tube to back of crankcase. Also the drive case off camshaft and drop shaft.
As for pipe inside motor, I forget now how it is secured in there. You know, I seem to remember it simply being wired in place? That fitting between the cylinders in for a sight glass. There should be a cork float device inside the crankcase with a thin rod that protrudes up into a sight glass to show your oil level.
Craig - tractor looks different with canopy - taken about 12 minutes ago! Tractor also looks better without me on it!
Cheers men,
RM
Many thanks Rick
That will let me get bottom end finished this week
Gilbert
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Neighbour stopped in with a couple of lemonades and wanted to take the Ideal out for a run. So we took her for a pond run.
That wall hanging in the shed in front of the Ideal must be why it produces such nice music.
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Gilbert,
When I rebuilt the Beaver, I put oil control rings on the pistons. That way, the oil level can be kept higher than usual so there is always plenty of dip and won't puke it over the top of the pistons. It has worked well so far.
Mr. Halcon - the flag was courtesy of a certain collector at Manitou, Manitoba.
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Gilbert,
When I rebuilt the Beaver, I put oil control rings on the pistons. That way, the oil level can be kept higher than usual so there is always plenty of dip and won't puke it over the top of the pistons. It has worked well so far.
Mr. Halcon - the flag was courtesy of a certain collector at Manitou, Manitoba.

Has their been any attempt at putting/using diesel pistons in a Beaver or any other Goold Shapley tractor?
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John,
There was one shaky piston on the Beaver when I rebuilt it. I took it over to Mr. Sykes in Lockport, NY and he did his spray weld magic on it. It looked like new when he was done. I think that was number four cylinder. Number one had a long term mouse nest in it. The piss had made a mark in the cylinder wall but the piston was good. I just cleaned up the mark and it has worked now for nearly 30 years! That motor was literally chock full o' nuts! Every water passage, valve chambers, etc. were filled with nuts and seeds and mouse supplies. The #1 exhaust valve was eaten out too if I remember right.
All good fun really!
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John,
There was one shaky piston on the Beaver when I rebuilt it. I took it over to Mr. Sykes in Lockport, NY and he did his spray weld magic on it. It looked like new when he was done. I think that was number four cylinder. Number one had a long term mouse nest in it. The piss had made a mark in the cylinder wall but the piston was good. I just cleaned up the mark and it has worked now for nearly 30 years! That motor was literally chock full o' nuts! Every water passage, valve chambers, etc. were filled with nuts and seeds and mouse supplies. The #1 exhaust valve was eaten out too if I remember right.
All good fun really!
RM

Yeah but did they try diesel pistons in them?
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The late Peter Ledwith running the Ontario Agricultrial Museum 12 - 24 Beaver Tractor back in 1994
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Is their a list of agents and dealers being kept for GSM?.I would be interested in some of the local agents and dealers in my area Milton to be exact
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Here’s another item from the GSM line, dates from 1907...you can see the business side of this mixer in the windmill catalogue....https://archive.org/stream/brantford...ge/45/mode/1up
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Here is a great read on the GS&M tractors at the Brandon Light tractor plowing demonstration of 1916


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More on the Beaver tractor at the museum in Milton Ontario after it arrived at the museum in 1992
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Pete was a great guy and truly loved that collection. His Great Canadian Antique Tractor Field Days was my favourite show for taking tractors.
When the powers-that-be sold the 30-60 Fairbanks-Morse tractor, some of those proceeds went towards purchasing the Beaver. There is a lot more to the story but it is ancient history now.
I wanted to sell them the Beaver I have now. It had just come from Saskatchewan and was unrestored. However, they wanted the restored tractor because it had an Ontario provenance. I put a price on it that was probably fair for the time. They sent the late Sherwood Hume over to appraise it. Evidently, I was in the ball park because they bought the tractor.
In a way, I am glad I kept the Saskatchewan Beaver because it turned out to be in far better condition overall, although it required a lot of engine work. You would have to pry that one from my cold, dead hands now!
The Patterson brothers were still on the farm between Parkhill and Wiarton. They were boys when their Dad bought the Beaver. I knew Hugh Patterson best. He said the local station agent sent word to the farm that the tractor was on a flatcar in the team track. The father and two boys went down to the station and there sat their tractor on the flat car. They had never worked around a gasoline tractor and had no idea where to start. Hugh said the morning passenger train came in and a fellow carrying a grip got off and looked toward them. He sauntered over and asked if they were the Pattersons? He said he was from GS&M in Brantford and was there to help set up their Beaver. It was snowy weather
It was a nice farm but with plenty of stones. There were a couple of stones in the field as big as the tractor. I asked them how they made out and they said, well, we just worked around the stones. The Beaver was used for custom threshing, cultivating, and winter work running a stone crusher for the township. I asked them about the friction drive and they said they never had too many problems with it. Hugh said if you handled the tractor properly, the friction would stand up very well.
They gave me a few tools that came with the tractor. They said that when it arrived, there was a wooden sign hanging under it which read something like, another quality product of Goold, Shapley & Muir Co., Brantford, Canada! Hugh said it laid around the farm for years but just rotted away.
He also said, and this may have been when they drove it out to the farm from the station, the snow built up on the rear wheels and broke one of the wooden fenders. GS&M sent them a new fender at no charge.
Alex Edgar used to raise beef cattle and was up in the Bruce looking at cattle and had seen the Beaver many times. It took a lot of visits before he could buy it. Alex never did anything with it so made a deal with me which worked out fairly for both of us.
We had Hugh and a grandson down to one of Peter's shows and I ran their old tractor with them on it through the parade. It was a nice moment.
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Beaver 30-15 1919


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Good story
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