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Old 01-18-2013, 10:32:24 PM
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Thanks for the tips guys!

More progress today. My dad and I were going to take the head off but he had to go supervise a job quickly today. So I kept tinkering around with other stuff that needed to be fixed.

I popped the governor cover off to see what surprises were in store in there. At first it didn't look good. Water started pouring out but then oil came out. Looks great and is perfectly functional!



Then I decided to tackle the fuel pump. I had one heck of a fight with the one on my Famous. The shaft was very seized to the body. To my surprise, this one came out with a twist of the channel locks!



Then my dad came back and helped me with the head. It is pretty heavy! One cylinder had an open valve so I was worried that the cylinder was going to be destroyed and the valve pitted. With the head off, it looks ok. Just some surface rust that should clean up ok. Valve looks good too! The picture makes it look worst than it is.



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Old 01-18-2013, 10:41:17 PM
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A couple more of the cylinders. Tomorrow, I'll wire wheels out the rust and carbon, pull the pistons out, lightly hone, free up the rings/clean and reassemble.



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Lookin' good Nate! Nice to work on a tractor that has been stored out of the elements. My 1919 TC was that way and it's nice not having to fight the "demon rust" at every step!

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Lookin' good Nate! Nice to work on a tractor that has been stored out of the elements. My 1919 TC was that way and it's nice not having to fight the "demon rust" at every step!
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:16:16 AM
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While you have the governor cover off take a look at the screws in the weight springs.
Once you get it running again if you should find the governor a little "flat" those springs will need some tightening.
In the case of the Titan I had I think I gave them only one full turn each and it was enough.
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My governor spring felt pretty good. If I have to, I'll do it later when I see how it runs.

I have bad news, the cylinder is pretty pitted. I guess I'll have get it sleeved. Where is a good place to get sleeves for this?
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Looking Greate Nate !. (almost an Ryme).....

Wonderful tractor.

Can see that you are very happy with it.


Congrats
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Nate, Haven't tuned into the post for a while. Your making great progress. We are about the same status on our Titan. Just completely dissassembled our KM oiler for the exact same reason, we had oil through the metering pump but none through the pressure pump. Please tear it apart!! Mine looked as good as yours or better. The Screens and lines were FULL and I mean FULL of sediment. I am so glad we cleaned our. As someone said previously, There is a solid pin that has a cotter pin type split, it is just between the big rachet gear and the first pump. Remove that pins and pull the drive shaft out by the crank handle. Then you can unbolt each oiler pump starting at the one closest to the gear. We just got our sleeved block back yesterday, 1/19/13. You need too find a machine shop that has the capabilities of working on large diesel engines (tractor-trailer type engines). If you any info, PM me. Good luck, Fred
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The Machine shop I use does everything from chain saw engines to log skidder engines. On their desk where you enter, they have all the bent/broken cranks, valves, pistons and connecting rods that they have fixed for customers. Some pretty amazing stuff. Their specialty is race engines. This should be a walk in the park for them.
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Don't be too hasty about making a call on some pitting........those big ol' pistons are pretty forgiving.
That and the fact it's a total loss oiling system means it will never smoke no matter what.......unless you're running rich.......
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Watch out if their specialty is race engines, make sure they give it enough clearance or it will just seize after running for an hour or so.
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Craig, the pistons are all the way back and the pitting is all along the bottom of the cylinder. If it was only a few pits, I'd run it, but since it is all along the bottom, I might as well do it once and do it right. I'll get some better pictures of it today.
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What do you guys think? Sleeve it or not? Now that I looked at it again, I can see why Craig said I might not have to worry about it.

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I would pull the piston and hone it good. It can be surprising how much more it will clean up after honing. Will it be perfect? No. Will it be usable? Probably.
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I think i would clean it up & get some new rings on it. It will not bother it & save you some cash to.
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Ok cool. The smaller pits are toward the rear and the biggest of them are up there the first or second rings would be. I will do new rings, those are cheap enough.
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I completely agree! Clean it up and install the new rings. These old engines are pretty forgiving and with good oil you will never notice any problems. Its not like you are building a precision watch.
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If you are going to re-ring it, you should pay careful attention to the ring lands on your pistons. You can get ring spacers from H & J Machining, I believe they are sponsors. H & J sell ring spacers for the John Deere D and they work great in a Titan. You can clean up the ring lands, go with standard 3/8 wide rings and put spacers on the bottom side of the ring. The fact that the Titan can use John Deere D rings means that rings are readily available in oversizes if you want to bore oversize and have your pistons spray welded up.
If the ring grooves aren't square, the rings won't seal and the compression won't be what it should, even in a freshly sleeved engine.
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Or if these pistons are bad, I can use the spare set that came with it!

Thanks guys. I'll give it a go tomorrow and see how it comes out.
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I honed it up and it doesn't look too bad now. Thoughts?

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Looks good. Bet it looks worse then it feels when you rub your hand over it. A lot of what your seeing yet is staining. I would use it.
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