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Old 10-06-2014, 08:45:42 AM
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looks like about 1 foot or so of the flywheel was above ground, is that right caleb? or does it look like an illusion in the picture? also you simply say traction engines... is it unknow at this time how many steam vs gas or brands? I think I dreamed about this last night, and was hoping for the story this morning.
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Old 10-06-2014, 12:51:19 PM
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I'll include some more pics tonight after I get away from work.

We have found so far
(3) return flue engines picked hard mostly just boilers

Early smaller nichols 18ish hp in size picked hard

About a 20 hp advance boiler

Whats left of a confirmed avery undemount that I'd heard stories of and got me to look in this area.only the rear axle and bottom half of rear wheels were left. Since the sixties scrappers got it.

2 early front axles and wheels.

A double minnie that scrappers broke the engine off.

And the F.

More to follow as we've discovered a network of cables layed like a spider web and this stuff tied to the main cables like a trout line.
Theres hundreds of yards of cable not search yet that we've located. Covers well over a hundred acres.
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Old 10-06-2014, 12:55:13 PM
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What a treasure find! I echo the earlier question....What is the significance of the cable? Was it to move a creek?

If scrappers got to them, how long were they above ground?

Keep us up to date.

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looks like about 1 foot or so of the flywheel was above ground, is that right caleb? or does it look like an illusion in the picture? also you simply say traction engines... is it unknow at this time how many steam vs gas or brands? I think I dreamed about this last night, and was hoping for the story this morning.
Luke the F was 100% buried by a literal 1" of sand. It was only rumoured to be there. Never thought It would actually be found. I was beside myself when I moved the dirt away and saw the flywheel that looked rumely

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What a treasure find! I echo the earlier question....What is the significance of the cable? Was it to move a creek?

If scrappers got to them, how long were they above ground?

Keep us up to date.

Thanks!
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They were put there to attempt to keep the small creek from washing a bridge out probably in the 20's

Before WPA lakes and ponds were built a big rain turned the creek you can jump over into a quarter mile wide river. Nowadays it must have 100 year rain fall to make it do that since the lakes and pond do there job of catching and holding over head water from up stream.
The creek is probably 400 yards from the minnie on the north bank.
They haven't been seen since the sixties and (demoman) Brad smith found 2 rear heads sticking out about 3" and the engines in at a 45 degree angle.

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My brother came running this morning towards me with saying you have to watch Smokstak.

Fantastic !!!!!!,


Great find, Great story, Great tractor, Great Rumely and great thread name...........

An real treasure.

Looking very forwards to the new updates.


Keep us involved !
The treasure in the tree story was such an interesting story of an F oilpull I figured id pay homage to you 2 for sharing its story with us. So thought you guys would like the treasure in the creek title.
I thought of just posting a picture of the undisturbed pasture kinda like your tree hiding the F but I couldn't hold out!
Thats serious will power on you two's part! Much kudo's
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Old 10-06-2014, 02:28:50 PM
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A double minnie that scrappers broke the engine off.
I would sure be interested in hearing more about the double Minneapolis, such as what size it was and what is actually left of it.

Sounds like a very interesting adventure. Hope you find something that is going to be useful to you.

Darren
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The treasure in the tree story was such an interesting story of an F oilpull I figured id pay homage to you 2 for sharing its story with us. So thought you guys would like the treasure in the creek title.
I thought of just posting a picture of the undisturbed pasture kinda like your tree hiding the F but I couldn't hold out!
Thats serious will power on you two's part! Much kudo's

Caleb,

Thank you so much....

We are looking forward to the storys of the Treasure In The Creek,


Henric and Chris,
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If my link works,here are some pics I took yesterday as the digging went on. Of course I was kind of partial to one of the pieces more than the others. Was a great, but long day.

http://s865.photobucket.com/user/okc...he%20Big%20Dig
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Not only do we have to look behind the barns now we have to dig up the planet ! Well Done
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The F seem to be the best bet for a possible survivor. There is a saying in the serious collector circle that your an amateur til you resurrect one dug up out of a river.
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The F seem to be the best bet for a possible survivor. There is a saying in the serious collector circle that your an amateur til you resurrect one dug up out of a river.
So Frank, by that logic if I were to resurrect this one would I be Semi Pro? Seriously though you stsrt chippin that orange rusty sand off and that iron is less pitted and better than stuff back east! Lol!
They might have broke that cast off boilers but all those boilers are smooth as a babys butt under that stuff. High hope come UT time. Alot of engines out there need a boiler.


-Dennis thanks for posting those its almost 8:30 and I just left a rig headin for the house.
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Rats, you are too far for a quick "road trip!" Along with many others, we'd surely like to take part in such an adventure. Very much like an archeological dig.

...next challenge....what will it take to "restore" them? Are they even candidates for donor engines?

Thank you for the photos!

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Looks like you got some pressure washing to do! A LOT OF IT!

Keep following the cabling, you never know what you will find. Wendell is looking for some early prototype D stuff!
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After the photobucked album.

All we can say is fantastic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
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Who would throw a F Oilpull away?? Well that was an entirely different era or eon! Yes, Beth, this is all archaeology. I assume the F master gears are well worn as the wheels have been put on backwards. Wade Brothers, Howard and Harlin, bought a 30-60 E Oilpull at auction and drove it home but their dad made them junk it after he had them hide it behind the barn out of sight. It came from the Horicon Wisconsin area. All that's left is the plow guide wheel which I have and have used as a pattern for others.
This is an exciting thread! We watch with anticipation. Thanks
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Hope to get to the site soon!! BTW my great uncle had bought a used 30-60 E that my dad said was in great shape and was only used a few years before he parked it. During WW2 he started it back up, drove it in front of his shop where it was cut down for scrap. He saved the tool box which is now on my B model.
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You can go all kind directions with this F.

You can go restore it and have it run again mention its not to first time that an tractor, engine have been pulled out of an river, creek, pond and that have been restored and run again.

It is also have something like it is now.
Woult also be amazing to place it on display in to an museum with the storys placed arround it.

Sure it is having already value.
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You know what they say! If it casts a shadow it can be restored!

Can't wait for updates

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The urge to get that F running again will be great, but the urge to keep as found may not be so great.
My 30-60 E had been overhauled in its past and then used more for a total of near 30,000 acres plowing, then left to sit, having the plow, plow guide and extension rims scrapped and then started for parade and sale after beating on a stuck exhaust valve breaking the guide and peening the valve clearance bolt. I ran it and plowed. It was real worn: rings, valves, gears, transmission bearings, rotten platform boards covered with plywood etc. Many have told me, "Don't ever paint it". I'm reworking it and I sawed up a walnut from our timber for the platform. Its blacksmith made bolts, rivets and the "Jan 4 1912 date on the crankcase will remain, but I want it to perform as it originally did.
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in Quarries the minerals in the sand can be quite hard on steel items, the F needs a good pressure wash disassembly and good sandblast to see how bad things are. i can't tell condition from the photos other than it appears in be part below the water table which is bad for it, well the parts that sit in the water.
Will see when more progress is made on rescue.
Looking forward to more pictures .......
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Lukeste- you talk about not being able to sleep, you should try making it through a day at work thinking about all that digging! Talk about an anxiety attack.

A better feeling although is what I was having after uncovering the flywheel. Pure butterflies in your stomach. I couldn't get my phone out of my pocket fast enough.

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