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Rumely 12-20 Restoration


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Old 02-10-2015, 12:39:12 AM
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Ok. pulled the pistons. huh, something missing.... ring missing on eash piston. Ring gap north of .050 inch. doesnt show in the pic that well but the wear on rings very uneven. cylinder bores look good other than a crosshatch.
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Anyone here remember or have experience as to what I will need here for gasket material or packing and size?? plan to drop the tranny now too to get all gaskets done.
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Default Re: Rumely 12-20 Restoration

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doesnt show in the pic that well but the wear on rings very uneven.
Others with more experience can chime in, but I remember reading that he un-even wear is pretty normal on these size/type of rings.

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Old 02-10-2015, 10:17:45 AM
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Default Re: Rumely 12-20 Restoration

The rings were made with an eccentric bore so that the thick part would provide a stiffer "hinge" action for the split ends.Ergo,greater and more even ring force against the cylinder bore.Not a defect--a plan.
Good for Rumely and their supplier.
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Old 02-10-2015, 05:38:02 PM
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Default Re: Rumely 12-20 Restoration

Do you know about when this tractor came out of Ontario?
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:48:18 PM
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I believe between 2-3 years ago
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Did it come out of the Orillia area of Ontario?

I believe that tractor was originally owned by a family with the last name of Clark down around Port Hope/ Belleville area.
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:27:46 PM
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First pretty parts for the k. tucked away for a long cold nap. otto engines, a site sponsor, has thr new rings on the shelf....unti tomorrow when they will be mailed out. feels like progress.
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Also when measuring rings I noticed I had one stuck ring and one busted ring.... Glad I pulled them out.
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Yes bubbles I do believe or orillia correct. Shed some more history if u can.
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Old 02-16-2015, 12:08:22 PM
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first round of pretty green parts. they threw me a fit in the painting process because of the nasty pitting, the sharp edges kept showing through. so I reduced the reducer to keep the paint thicker, more time between coats, and more coats of paint. could have made a lot of these parts new, just a lot of flat stock and with a shear and punch, would go fast, but certainly should keep the original parts where I can. hopefully this week I can get the engine all back together less the head, that piece is gonna need so work
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Do you have plans to dismantle the entire transmission?
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The initial plan is to drop the trans and flip it over. take the cover off and have a look. when I drained the oil I saw nothing suspicious. if it looks fine, I will put in gaskets,seals,packing etc and put it back in the frame. if it needs to go apart it will. nothing suspicous though. I may not take off pinion gears because they wont be replaced anyway.
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two pistons, too many problems, but all resolved....the lubricator had to have been run empty at some time. lots of rough areas to work over. I started with a file but that quickly grew boring. grinder with flap brush I was afraid would be too rough. so I used the one in the picture. if you ever need to clean up a plow bottom, this is the thing to have. they dont remove metal, unless you really lay into it in a stationary spot.... the pictures represent before and after.
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When cleaning carbon off the top of the piston with the grinder and the same pad, I come upon this farmer fix. looks to be fine....maybe a bit scary but we will go with it.
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Each rod had these numbers. think it was 15 12. the other 15 13. small shallow stamped in. guessing sequential numbers were weighted or balanced in pairs??
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Final results. also had a loose bolt on a wrist pin. drilled bottom land for oil rings. all lands got a screwdriver and hammer to get carbon out. whew. ready for rings....
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Might be good idea to check the piston to bore clearance at several spots and pistons wear on several locations.
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When cleaning carbon off the top of the piston with the grinder and the same pad, I come upon this farmer fix. looks to be fine....maybe a bit scary but we will go with it.
It might be a good idea to smooth off the high spots on the brazing as they can become hot spots for preignition.
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yep, going to check bore clearance tonight, just simply got too late last night to go any further. hope its ok, think it should be..
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