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Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty


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Old 11-13-2004, 03:07:23 PM
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Default Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty as found

Attached is a picture of a late Big 4 Thirty with 30" x 99" rear drivers as it sat in the shelter belt out in the Dakotas. My Dad, Brother and I have gathered parts for about four years. In October 2004 we trailered the chassis home. It had stood for years out in the Dakotas located in a shelter belt with Chinese Elm trees growing up between the frame rails. We have the complete transmission and belt pulley but still need engine jugs and a differential. The missing parts will be poured if nothing shows up. So....if you know of anything, I will listen!

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Default Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty Being Unloaded

Here is one additional picture of unloading the Big 4 chassis at the farm at Meadow, SD. Bruce
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Default Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty photo

Well, it is evening and I am finally getting the first picture attached that I wanted to attach! Thanks to Craig Anderson! Bruce Flatmoe
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bruce.what a nice machine!!!! could you tell me little about it? thanks bernie.
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The chassis that we just pulled home to the farm in western South Dakota is one that we knew of for several years. It so happens to be a late production model as it has the large 30" x 90" rear drive wheels. The gearing is nice. There is little wear on the bull gears. We have gathered most of the engine parts except the cylinders. If they can't be purchased they will need to be poured. Parts have come from the US and Canada. The top half of the engine was used for years as an anvil in a farm shop. Transmission gears came from Missouri and Kansas, other transmission parts were found in the haymow of a barn in Canada, the remainder of the trans was poured and machined. We hope to start restoring this tractor late fall of 2005. Bruce
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bruce. thanks for the info. and please keep us posted. i for 1 am very interested in seeing this tractor come back to life!! bernie niemeyer.
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bruce. thanks for the info. and please keep us posted. i for 1 am very interested in seeing this tractor come back to life!! bernie niemeyer.
Bruce could find parts between the cracks in an IGLOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Default Re: Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty

We have been pouring babbitt in the EB Big 4 transmission. It takes a lot of time to level and square up the shafts but it is going well. Hope to have it completed in the next couple of months. See the attached pictures.
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This summer we had the good fortune of obtaining these original cylinders for the tractor. They had been hidden away in a barn for years. Kind of a high point of the summer!
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Default Re: Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty

Bruce
I take my hat off fore you.
What you are doing is amazing...
Please keep us up to date off what you are doing but also the Hart Parr.

Thanks for sharing,

Chris
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Wow! the job you are doing is fabulous.......and finding those cylinders,.....high point of the year indeed!
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Default Re: Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty

Having had the opportunity to visit the Flatmoe farm last spring, I can tell you it was a very inspirational experience. The guys do as much "building" as they do rebuilding on the tractor projects they do. The magnitude of some of their efforts make most tractor projects look like kids stuff. They don't seem to be intimidated by anything. And sometimes, with a hot tip, you really get a lucky break like with those Big 4 jugs.
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This transmission project is getting close to being completed. I found it interesting that "Foote Brothers" is stamped on several of the gears. I know they were an early gear supplier. The belt pulley shaft needs the babbitt poured.
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Default Re: Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty

Awesome. Nuf said.
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Default Re: Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty

Looks like you guys are doing a great job! We are going to have to make a trip out and take a look at your collection one of these days!
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Default Re: Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty

We spent a couple of days this past week getting our Big 4 crankcase ready to be welded up. At one time two crankcases had been welded up with the goal of making up a 6 cyl Big 4. We ended up with those parts and now have to put the lower crankcase pieces back together. The crankcase is now ready for preheating and brazing.
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Default Re: Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty

Bruce, I'm surprised you didn't decide to just build a 45, sounded like someone had the project half way there :P. Any more details on the Big Four 45 project that someone had started with your parts? Sounds kind of interesting.
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The lower crankcase was Harold Ottoway's first try on the 45 he built. These were left over parts of his.
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Default Re: Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty

By the way....we are short 3 large valves for this project. Here are the specs.

Stem dia. 5/8"
Stem length 10.5" with 2.5" of coarse thread on the bottom
Valve head is 3 3/8" O.D. on the top side and is .5" thick.

We can get the threads cut on the stem if someone has a valve that is close to work from.

Thanks in advance.
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Default Re: Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty

Bruce?
Here is a valve I asked about some time ago. With any luck, I should be able to find where I stowed it!
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showth...ighlight=valve
It could possibly be cut down for what you need. I did this when restoring the GS&M Beaver tractor 20 years back. There was one bad valve and I made another by cutting down a bigger one from an Eagle tractor.
You are welcome to it if you think it will work (and if I can find it).
G.
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