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Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty


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Bruce its looking good. Thanks for the updates.
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Today I got the connecting rods back from the machine shop. They look nice. Babbit next and then they get line bored. On the right is an original old style Big 4 rod.
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I am attaching a picture of the "half" of the intake manifold that we own. This is a long shot but with all the collectors that have junk piles with pieces and parts in them, is there anyone that would happen to have a Big 4 intake manifold? Perhaps even the left hand side which is the inverse of the side we have. I guess this is a way to show the world a picture of the part we need help with.
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Does anyone know why some Big Four 30's had round-spoke back wheels, while others had flat-spoke ones? I assumed it must be the later E-B tractors that had the flat-spoke ones, but have seen a Gas Traction one with them too. Could have been changed a some time during its life I suppose.
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I am attaching a picture of the "half" of the intake manifold that we own. This is a long shot but with all the collectors that have junk piles with pieces and parts in them, is there anyone that would happen to have a Big 4 intake manifold? Perhaps even the left hand side which is the inverse of the side we have. I guess this is a way to show the world a picture of the part we need help with.
Check out this thread http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showth...ghlight=crosby (post #20) in it I posted a photo of an intake manifold fabricated by Jerry Alpenap in Witchta KS.

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Thank you Kelly! Yes, fabricating the missing half is an option. I am going to give a foundry in WISC a try first to see if they will hand carve the cores and pour us the missing half. There will still need to be welding even if we pour the LH side.
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Ricelake they did my cam towers im sure they can do them to they do great work .
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Thanks Warren. That is where I am heading.
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This week I got the camshaft & camgear from the machine shop. I also just got back from the crankshaft shop wish a freshly ground and polished crankshaft for the Big 4. By tomorrow night they will be out to the farm in South Dakota.
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Early this morning I stopped at the machine shop. The lower crankcase is welded and has been trued up in the machining center. We have the rods in getting babbitted out in the Black Hills. Moving forward a bit more.
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Default Re: Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty

Bruce The job you are doing on this tractor is proof of the saying "If it casts a shadow it can be restored" Your mention of Harold reminds me of the EB he found in a creek bottom out in Montana someplace and spent several years putting what was left after being under water for 80 years back together. I think it is the only 6-Cylinder in existance. While doing the story for Antique Power he told Pat Ertle he hated it when someone wouldn't quote the cost of the completed project. When he got to the end of the interview Pat said so how much did this cost and Harold had a second thought and refused to say. I think the main problem is we never really know the exact cost because so much of a labor of love can't be priced out. Thanks for this wonderful job.
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Bruce, great news on the progress! Keep it up, can't wait to see it in full assembly!
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wouldn't be easier to turn new valves? thread and weld the over sized stem in the head blank and start turning. the chance of pulling a head off would be less than being struck by lightning twice on the same day and you would have luxury of turning the exact dims you need for each seat and guide. the material options are endless, stainess heads, high mollidinum stems for compacted grain structure (makes them slicker). just a thought.........
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Got the valve situation solved. We found 3 nice original Big 4 valves! Thanks for the ideas though. This winter the engine should start to be assembled. Next week we will be taking an original three speed transmission frame and transmission case to the foundry to have replicated. Doing some trade work here as our first single speed transmission is done and at the farm in SD. However, our frame was drilled for a three speed transmission origianally. This will work out better for a couple of us working on Big 4 projects.
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Spent the day working hard on the disassembly of this three speed transmission. It was a big project! We completed the job, got it pressure washed and strapped on the trailer ready for a ride to foundry at Rice Lake, WI.
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Default Re: Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty

Bruce and Brian,

Its looking good what you guys are doing.

A lot of things about Big Four Emerson Brantingham at the momend.

We don’t have a lot of things about Emerson Brantingham, only this very old golden Lady’s Mirror.

Every day we looke in it if our hair is still doing good.

Keep us up to date.

Henric and Chris
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Howdy, Henric & Chris;
The mirror is another item I think I saw on Ebay!
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Oilpulled,

Wel you must have a long and huge memorie because that was a very long time ago on Ebay.
Fantactic Rumely F you have with that nice Hamm Lantern on the frond.
My Ham light is working fantastic now.
Going to give an demostration this spring overhere on Smoktak.

Keep in touch with you.

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Oilpulled,

Wel you must have a long and huge memorie because that was a very long time ago on Ebay.
Fantactic Rumely F you have with that nice Hamm Lantern on the frond.
My Ham light is working fantastic now.
Going to give an demostration this spring overhere on Smoktak.

Keep in touch with you.

Chris
That is a Defiance headlamp. Burner is like Hamm, but notice the sloping parts are straight whereas the Hamm is curved. I've done some research and I will post more details later. Thank you for the comment.
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Default Re: Late Emerson Brantingham Big 4 Thirty

Bruce and Brian,

Do you guy’s have seen the last.
Heritage Eagle Case magazine Fall 2010 No. 91 page 30
There is a picture in it that coult be very good your Big Four 30 with the flat spokes.

Don’t know if you guy’s have saw it but its an very intresting picture.....
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