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Old 04-04-2019, 01:07:48 PM
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Another farmer zoomed by my shop in a red restored one ton 1940s GMC that obviously has been repowered with something newer. It sure wasn’t a six!
He’s farming with it! He was towing a trailer with a tractor on it.
Is HE an abomination?
Just let me know...
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:40:14 PM
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Yes, yes he is an abomination. Maybe it's not exactly the right word, but I do consider it a "crime". Or at the very least a shame. A "Restoration" would be defined as a return to original condition. I'll bet that, back in the '40's, it wasn't just for show. I'll bet they farmed with it back then too. And gasoline is backwards compatible. So it would work just as well today as it did then. My 1931 Model A Ford runs perfectly well on the ethanol laced gasoline of today.

But I see the point. Certainly any engine is better than scrapping the body. I like what I call "Period correct modifications"... As stated, when parts are hard to come by, substitute something else that's more or less from the same period. I'd rather seen a hotrodded 1930's car that was done in the '50's than a modern one.

It's just that, for some of us, things are far more than superficial- an old body. It is a shame that so many old experiences are thrown away, and no one will ever be able to experience them again. It's like burning books.
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Old 04-05-2019, 11:03:09 AM
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The word is used as an exaggeration ! , Something as old as this truck needs to be kept as original as possible,,, in MY opinion.
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Old 04-06-2019, 05:59:08 AM
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Does anyone have a lead on a international RD450 ? I haven't been able to locate any yet. Thanks Mike
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Old 04-06-2019, 08:58:44 AM
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I have a couple that run.
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Cool! What's your asking price for one? Would like a transmission with it also. Mike
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Old 04-06-2019, 10:18:24 PM
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I think they both run and I think they both have five speed transmissions behind them and they both have air brakes. I could sell you one for $500. I would make sure they run. Would you come to Colorado and get it?
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Old 04-08-2019, 05:19:59 AM
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Heins, I sent you a pm. Mike
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:26:05 PM
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Heins, I forgot to ask what year is that truck? Thanks mike
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Repurposing antique vehicles for farm or business use via an updated drivetrain is NOT an abomination. It’s doing what PRACTICAL and reasonable people have always done: using up and wearing out what you’ve got.
Make your antique vehicle interface better with our modern roads and maybe it won’t get junked after you pass. Our kids could care less about correct motors in a make and model they’ve never seen and much more about whether the f@@king thing is actually driveable on today’s streets.
Don’t spend another minute fretting about “appropriateness”. I’ve got a Dodge 318 that will propel your firetruck to 30 mph just fine.

By making an old vehicle useful again you forestall its inevitable move to the recycling yard. Aren’t we all about saving old equipment?
“Restoration” is the abomination. You ensure that you invest more than the vehicle is worth only to end up with a static museum piece. Oh boy. This stuff was meant to be driven and used.
Stop restoring and start fixing up and updating. Mechanical updates can be reversed later if someone wishes. If all you care about is outward appearance become a hairdresser.
Our kids will set us all straight. What will they do with our beloved trucks after we die?
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Heins, I forgot to ask what year is that truck? Thanks mike
It is the late 40's, I have the title to it. You said you wanted a vintage engine.
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My old vehicles work just fine on modern roads. Roads are backwards compatible. And there are intelligent kids these days that are not superficial.

If I won the lottery, I would go around buying all of these screwed up vehicles, scrapping out the crap that was put into them, and getting them restored. It would be awesome.

A stupid modern engine and automatic trans in an antique truck. HA! What an abomination!

Why not just buy a MODERN truck? How on earth is it possible that modern vehicles are not as good as old ones EXCEPT their engines?? What a JOKE.
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Heins, that's fine, I just forgot to ask. Mike
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Hey Mike! Sorry about the deviation on your thread. I'm not normally one to turn the cranks of others. But this time it was irresistible. Glad to hear that it looks like you've found an engine.

Keith
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Here are pictures of the truck and engine. The truck is a 1945, the title said the company that sold the truck to me had a lien on the truck for $9,000,000.00. They didn't go broke, they were big operators. I will have to make sure the engine is a RD 450.
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Thanks vanman. I do understand what you mean. I sometimes can't resist myself either.

Thanks Heins for the picture and just let me know. Mike
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Here are pictures of the truck and engine. The truck is a 1945, the title said the company that sold the truck to me had a lien on the truck for $9,000,000.00. They didn't go broke, they were big operators. I will have to make sure the engine is a RD 450.
heins, Neat old truck and engine. That would be a nice simple engine for the fire engine. Listened to a few running on youtube and they were smooth. So are they 450 ci? Well, I looked up the specs and they are 450 ci. They say the HP is 202 at 3,000 rpm I can't imagine that big engine sound at 3,000 rpm! I hear my Dodge with the 5.9 Cummins at close to 3,000 rpm (359ci) and "it's a turnin'!"
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I think they are gov at 2800 or 2600. That family of engines was made from around 289 CID up to 501. The engine number is on the block, on the left side, between #1 and #2 cyl, the series and displacement will stamped like RED or RD 450, then the sengine serial number.
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372,406,450,501.
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Also 361 and 401 and may be a few others. The same family was in production from the early 30's until the 70's.
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