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David, the engine in your post is not McCaugue"s, but was one that came from Breslau, and sold to a fellow by the name of [?] Bob Bruin, it, and several other pieces of a collection were destroyed in a fire a few years ago.

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Here is the aftermath of the fire at Bob Bruin's. the engine is to the rear of the shed. If I recall it was started by sparks from a grinder, and some rags.

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Wow I hope he had insurance.
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Just hate to think of those fires - terrible scene. Did he ever restore the Sawyer?
A couple more of the 11-22 from today - teasers maybe? We weren't threshing - just belting up for some pictures. The mill (post #40) matches the tractor and the outfit came from a long time Stakker who is to be praised for helping to keep her in Ontario and be taken back to Hamilton where she was built. She will be there to stay for a long, long time I believe.
We drove the tractor from another farm - across a field and down the paved road a ways. She sounded nice just turning the mill.
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When we were up to pick up the tractor last summer, Robert's sister gave us some of her freshly brewed currant jelly! I just got around to opening the jar today. It is fantastic, and matched up well with cruchy pb on brown! Thanks Darlene.
Third picture are new owners - father, son and grandson with dog. The horse in the background is easy to look after and is hitched to a Sawyer & Massey road grader which I never thought to get a decent picture of! They also have a 17 hp S&M steam traction engine and an S&M tandem compound steam portable engine.
Oops, got jam on the computer keys!
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Nice to see the old girl again Rick.I remember when i first saw that tractor i thought it was scale model then you told me that Sawyer made that size of tractor.John




Do any of you Sawyer experts know if the 11 - 22 had a roof/canopy like the bigger tractors did ?. I have seen one with a roof thats why i am asking
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There are two 11-22's with a canopy that I know of, but I believe these were later additions. One is in France, and the other I believe in Minnesota. They are not very appealing with such, very much out of scale.


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I am thinking I may put a canopy on my earlier 11-22. I think it will look good if it's scaled correctly. If it doesn't look good after we get it on we can always use it for firewood later.

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Joe,
Sorry I missed you at Rollag. Saw you from a distance.
In your photo on this thread of your orange 11-22, I see the fan drive seems to be a belt. What does that drive off? When Lorne Harris restored his (now in Britain), I seem to recall his was a friction drive off or behind the flywheel. I think he had to recreate all of that.
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The friction wheel was gone from the tractor when I got it and we felt that the belt would be easier to maintain. We ran the belt in the same spot on the back of the flywheel that the friction would have rubbed. We figured it would be easy enough to switch back if need be by switching the pulley back to a friction wheel if more information became readily available.

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So what are the survival Rates for each size of the line and how many were actully made of each size?.John
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Caser,
No records available of numbers built. Just off the top of my head, a conservative number for survivors might be:
10-20 - 1-2
11-22 - 12-15
17-36 - 1
20-40 - 10-12
22-45 (and variations) - 12-15.
Again - more guessing than certainty.
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No records available of numbers built. Just off the top of my head, a conservative number for survivors might be:
10-20 - 1-2
11-22 - 12-15
17-36 - 1
20-40 - 10-12
22-45 (and variations) - 12-15.
Again - more guessing than certainty.


Thanks uncle G.Their are not as many 20-40's as i had thought.John
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I think there are far more than we realize. There always seems to be another show up somewhere. David Parfitt list 17 11-22's, and I am certain that list is outdated. It does not include the one that sold a couple of years ago in Manitoba. Not sure about the one that sold in Italy a few years back either, as no one seems to know where it went. The thought was Spain, though David does list one in Switzerland, and that could very well be it. He also only lists 10 20-40's, and I am not sure how complete that # is.

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I think there are far more than we realize. There always seems to be another show up somewhere. David Parfitt list 17 11-22's, and I am certain that list is outdated. It does not include the one that sold a couple of years ago in Manitoba. Not sure about the one that sold in Italy a few years back either, as no one seems to know where it went. The thought was Spain, though David does list one in Switzerland, and that could very well be it. He also only lists 10 20-40's, and I am not sure how complete that # is. Robert
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As far as I know, the one that was sold in Italy is now in Switzerland. The new owner emailed me several years ago.

I would be interested to know more about the one in Manitoba if you can fill in any details.

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I have another question for you professor Willikers.Did Sawyer paint the under part of the roof white or were they all green originally what would be correct?.I have seen them painted both.John
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Thank you David. I was wondering if the one from Italy/Switzerland were one and the same.

The one in Manitoba surfaced a few years ago in a chicken shed during the clean up of an estate. It was listed here on SmokStak. Onkle G may know more about it. I could only get one of the images to load from the classified listing, though I think G may have some more of it. It sold very quickly, and quite well as is, where is. Apparently remained in Manitoba. It has not been seen, or heard of since.

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I have another question for you professor Willikers.Did Sawyer paint the under part of the roof white or were they all green originally what would be correct?.I have seen them painted both.John
Not sure but will check.
Re the one that came out of the shed in Manitoba, it was sold locally. I probably have pix somewhere but can't imagine which disc or stick they might be on!??!
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Sawyer Massey 30-60 Building Lakeshore Road at Oakville Ontario July 28 1915
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