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18-36 Hart Parr help needed


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Default 18-36 Hart Parr help needed

Guys, picked up this tractor recently, overall decent condition, but there's a couple things I'm wondering if anyone can help us out with.
First, the 2 gears that are on the main shaft into the trans are beat up, for sure the one that runs high hear will have to be repaired or replaced. Does anyone have a parts transmission laying around??
Second the belt pulley is homemade so we are looking for one, and the hub is cracked, so that needs to be replaced or repaired.

I believe it's a 1929, 3 speed trans, has clutch brake on the pulley hub.

Thanks for any leads on parts.
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Default Re: 18-36 Hart Parr help needed



We are also looking for an air cleaner

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Default Re: 18-36 Hart Parr help needed

I should say that I won't have time till this winter to take the trans apart, so I don't know the gear size or tooth count or anything but know that I need the gear that runs high on the main shaft, and if it's available, the other gear on the main shaft.
I'm assuming all 3 speed 18-36 trans are the same.
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Default Re: 18-36 Hart Parr help needed

Looks like a decent unit. Looks to be a John Deere carb grafted on as well. The correct Scheblers come up for sale from time to time if you have the mind to change it out at some point. Seems to run fine with the dltx on it.
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My thanks button is not available, so thanks for posting the video and good luck finding parts.
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Dustin I have a complete transmission and other parts. Call me at 319-766-2663.

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Default Re: 18-36 Hart Parr help needed

I’ve heard the transmissions and crankcases on the Hart Parrs are Babbitted in place. Is this correct?
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Default Re: 18-36 Hart Parr help needed

We have a 28-50 trans that the case is busted up but I believe the gears are ok. Don't know if it is the same or not.
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Default Re: 18-36 Hart Parr help needed

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I’ve heard the transmissions and crankcases on the Hart Parrs are Babbitted in place. Is this correct?
Yes, the bolt holes are filled with babbit after the cases are lined up
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Default Re: 18-36 Hart Parr help needed

Runs really nice!
I have a friend: If he were on the net, I'd show him this video and listen for the screaming from 50 miles away, I'd hear him. He'd just flip out over a JD carb on the Hart-Parr.
Thanks for showing this!
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Default Re: 18-36 Hart Parr help needed

Update, I have the correct carb if you guys are wondering, I'll look into putting it on during the work this winter, for the mean time it runs good with the JD carb.
Does anyone have a pic of how the air cleaner should look? Or what it's internal construction is? I'll maybe try to fabricate something myself that looks close.
Thanks for the leads in parts so far
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You might check with Biewers, i think they had reproduction air cleaners listed for Hart Parr's at one time.

https://salvagetractors.com/
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Was able to find the gears I was looking for, and the tin that goes over the belt pulley.

Still looking for leads on the hub and belt pulley.
And an air cleaner.
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Default Re: 18-36 Hart Parr help needed

Another question.
The radiator looks to be in pretty good condition, but rust chunks have come off the top tank and other crap has plugged 90 percent of the core, is there anything I can use to try to loosen it up that won't ruin tbe core or make it leak?
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Default Re: 18-36 Hart Parr help needed

Best luck I have ever had was to disassemble and clean out with air pressure both ways. I sandblast the tanks, etc.
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Default Re: 18-36 Hart Parr help needed

Another question, how do you take the small gear off the end of the cam that drives the oiler gear. And does anyone have a good spare?
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You must not have read your email yet...….
The gear is screwed into the end of the cam shaft...….left hand threads.
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Does anyone have good pictures of the inside of an original air cleaner, I will probably try to just reproduce one myself but want to see inside it.
All I have is pics of the outside.
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Pretty hard to get a pic, but this is looking down from the top. You might get some patent descriptions or a drawing if you search the numbers.
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Default Re: 18-36 Hart Parr help needed

Thanks David, so the elbow Inside leads to the carb I'm assuming.
Air comes in and passes through the fan plate, then up the elbow into the carb.

Is there a way in the bottom to clean it out
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